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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1663304350; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=R/tK87+t8BRtOGSIYiWvsKXLKgEeZ6l1E6l+gn7fXIc=; b=gB95VZdlQfS79j3LCO6atRvXnuuO2cotVYEm8ppxa2n/ZDe98sj3NCM+SVHXRiShpab4JQ nJeCsM0o22COishDDg2jRIMxXR3eoVsw4fMTvJhR+K9bVCYEJp8DAsUIr52hKUunOmLVD/ 47PSFhH4kw2mxIIdcEDxtax8mePgRvAHIC3yOP4a4mxwbAJL4UxaEpgnuMXg0yxB/j9uDv WzIsEM9/WSA1IozJfZIFA7nexqyZa9aule4H8+Uv63ydnvxY99wVzNxucYoImp1ZWu6I6W GBV2gLdcK6p3BFlyHfJZeqyEaJcGBZWGWE+HZBebu6bCAQ/Y65CZyDrSkZhkMg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1663304350; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=a6weR/k6zWfSX743nqaN4CXBjEVLyPBfp4RK5rWC7OgU49+wW55yOcpSMbAgK6J9K81Mji DB0nLvjWa4vj3Ka10CO0tWyN9shR0fcai4iivX0Xr8hIJaOG7Rnj9fzrii0Ht8tZNobx12 6w0qcmlXTtMT1hr9Jp3jx3bIVN0WjGT0yrPlPP0uNp0LmpHjZuHcBN6QUnGhIWK3XA8fpQ TAY51zyHFR4Eix/Pk4e1XqjC3YI3w+P1x4xmbzO4eYHnN+olOQgOAgTeuVu0pMnbd3wrBx J4bBps92Otx8G1Dos7elVABTRylbN77jTcRz2EW+jAIqlHOgL9DGbFlKwCBZnw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=HDaaZLHo; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.83 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=HDaaZLHo; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: C2947CDF6 X-Spam-Score: -1.83 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: uIMH4cwXtjbZ Christophe Schockaert writes: > (my wish would be to have a robust way to handle multilines formating,=20 > but that=E2=80=99s on another topic going on ^^) > > I don=E2=80=99t know what=E2=80=99s the usual process : can=E2=80=99t we = file an issue to track=20 > it, and write down the options we have, then decide the outcome of it=20 > (either development, or documenting options and ideas) ? Just drop an email with appropriate subject. > Regarding the checkbox state, I wanted to have the impression of=20 > maintainers, but I felt that choosing the character would not be easy to= =20 > handle not only for development, but even for reading documents from=20 > different sources (custom TODO states have a meaning that we can infer,=20 > but a single letter seems harder). > > As an after thought, about the "[C]" proposal, I wonder if it would not=20 > be better to have a symbol, as "[X]" is not used for the letter, but for= =20 > the cross, same for the "space" and the "dash" which express "halfway=20 > through". I didn=E2=80=99t have any idea the other day, but meanwhile, I = have=20 > come first with "[~]" which sounds like a wave and thus is not firm, and= =20 > is also a bitwise NOT in some programming languages. Or, thinking about=20 > the "NOT", I thought about "[!]" which is a NOT (not done) and also=20 > quite expressive. The only thing is that it is quite catching attention,= =20 > like if we need to pay attention for something that was probably not=20 > that important since we cancelled it :) I could not find many other=20 > options, as I feel we need to stick to ASCII for a solution. > > > WDYT ? I think that choosing a character is of a secondary importance. It can be easily adjusted once we have a working code. Getting the working code is much harder though. Someone=E2=84=A2 will need to submit a patch first. --=20 Ihor Radchenko, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at https://orgmode.org/. Support Org development at https://liberapay.com/org-mode, or support my work at https://liberapay.com/yantar92