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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1664298838; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=4rPIJSLCn6Sq5Ry7HpMoP13bIbvqbw0gUQyfADgqIdY=; b=iDijZXx3QOaLOCfWbhD3KCGd76AErTbEdH9IT0dWQljp1yEWFqVlwprn58yjkSeulxDx/S sC9WPDhq6KhNotwij1kqxbl6ZlMLmnRqSLLLjRdjkKzfZk3/9ALp1ZAN1j1ZhJL0ILTHAq liwRqqL+tufH1H8x1MHicvT6w5OIL6wd4bSAj461RQb1dPnSLuRGGdtEBAXTsr5A5cV9t5 BMU/SnCUIVMQb1hHt4iAysvWzKi+s2Hbkl6sfhdXK0C9X9Oc1d/OXw5I6IKlSE/2/EaQl6 KM6Rb/L3GIq/JPKjxu++i+S6VaiuFH5AkAzmki1V+K5LL6pGCuAFkVRax2latg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1664298838; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=CG62NcfQ0DdoneQaGGoQwAqtPcUc8tyHwhUC0+HZ9+XKlkaS0xI/ZzCA+lXTdlsEh2CKze krtim/n9foe0DHPTg6eufyU3Ul0l/EbkNpb98DQ7+Gji97Zusea5AuRlaMwqp7ZY0slrnh V5IhgjMKlXphYFw3LXTqZEl+Ds3gGs10GHrnqVx9Pa5JRgxOu48RB7ulMlkltnRmMr5OgX HakZ+dHTBo/J7qXSFl96G0lj//d8sm2wefaBQI0iw2WyynRYlBcBI3+zfAgidX3U2Mq3oj Sl5FLh1xE8uYHsDZng+p/AjPa1ev3+a+aTYXjp/t5S1iDavPm1Bpfn7cE+GMZg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=b8QYh1gs; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.54 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=b8QYh1gs; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 4B92B9628 X-Spam-Score: -2.54 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: Nm5Q5LfNKhOD Hi, Ihor, thanks for your comments. Ihor Radchenko writes: > This post appears to be a nice fit for > https://orgmode.org/worg/org-blog-articles.html (except non-permanent > imgur links). Do you have an Org version? Or maybe an actual blog post? Precisely I have in mind to publish in my blog on typography (https://lunotipia.juanmanuelmacias.com/) an extended and more detailed version of this text, also including the function to which I refer (and that I have not included in the post to the list for not making the text any longer). The drawback is that my blog is in Spanish. I can easily make an English version of the blog post as well. Who should I send the link to, when I post it? >> To compile the two PDFs separately and get the PDF in sync, I also do it >> from Org using a shell source block. So I have all PDFs always >> synchronized up to date. The synchronized PDF is obtained with pdftk: >> >> > > I notice two things here: > > 1. \clearpage command, which reminds me about > https://orgmode.org/list/87mtamjrft.fsf@localhost > May it be useful to have page break syntax element in Org? I really don't have an opinion at the moment... As a user I try to put as few direct LaTeX commands as possible: commands like \newpage, \pagebreak, \clearpage, \bigskip, \quad, etc. Whenever I can, I prefer to control spaces and page breaks using more general macros. And, when I put these commands, the fact of resorting to an export snippet does not usually bother me, since they are not very verbose commands. But I don't know what other users will think... > 2. You had to use direct LaTeX for caption. Can we do something to make > the #+caption keywords more useful? Yes, I use direct LaTeX in that case because I need to put the command \caption*, the starred version of \caption provided by the caption package. And before \caption*, I wanted to also add a \captionsetup. For those cases, I think the :caption attribute already does a good job. What would be interesting (IMO) is to be able to introduce arbitrary code within the figure environment through an attribute, but this is where the possible :export_template attribute could come into play, as we discussed in the other thread. Best regards, Juan Manuel=20 --=20 -- ------------------------------------------------------ Juan Manuel Mac=C3=ADas=20 https://juanmanuelmacias.com https://lunotipia.juanmanuelmacias.com https://gnutas.juanmanuelmacias.com