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From: Bastien <bzg@altern.org>
To: Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [BUG] `org-load-noerror-mustsuffix´ is not defined, introduced by 5484a33b
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:23:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87obgvzlah.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k3rjd51k.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (Achim Gratz's message of "Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:04:55 +0100")

Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de> writes:

> Bastien writes:
>> There is this line at the end of org-loaddefs.el:
>>
>> ;; no-byte-compile: t
>>
>> So my understanding is that org-loaddefs.el is never compressed.
>
> Byte-compiled != compressed.

Yep, typo.  But the 'mustsuffix trick is to force loading ".el" (and
not ".elc" files, right?  My question is: when is it necessary?

>> Under which conditions is it compressed?
>
> When calling gzip on it.

Er... I'm not Spinoza, considering things "sub specie aeternitatis".

I'm trying to consider real use-cases, with a sense of "real" close to
"not so improbable".  I don't see why Org should take care of users
who are pervert enough to gzip their org-loaddefs.el... but maybe I
lack imagination, as usual :)

>>> In particular, when there is another org-loaddefs.el later on in the
>>> loadpath, it will happily load that file, creating just the very problem
>>> we were trying to avoid.
>>
>> That's why the user needs to add the correct load-path in his
>> .emacs.el when using a tarball or a git clone.  I made it clear
>> in the docs.
>
> No, it will load the wrong file even if the load-path is correct.  Try
> it if you don't believe me — gotta run now.

emacs -Q
M-: (add-to-list 'load-path "~/git/org-mode/lisp")
M-: (find-library "org")
M-: (buffer-file-name)
 => "~/git/org-mode/lisp/org.el"

emacs -Q
M-: (add-to-list 'load-path "~/git/org-mode/lisp" t)
M-: (find-library "org")
M-: (buffer-file-name)
 => "/usr/local/share/emacs/24.3.50/lisp/org/org.el"

But I know your answer, `find-library' does not give the library from
which functions have been autoloaded.

-- 
 Bastien

  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-11 17:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-10 16:08 [BUG] `org-load-noerror-mustsuffix´ is not defined, introduced by 5484a33b Eric Schulte
2013-01-10 16:29 ` Bastien
2013-01-10 16:38   ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-10 17:09     ` Bastien
2013-01-10 17:29       ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-10 17:44         ` Nick Dokos
2013-01-10 18:13           ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-10 18:44             ` Bastien
2013-01-10 19:28               ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-10 20:05                 ` Bastien
2013-01-10 21:12                   ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-10 22:24                     ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-10 22:45                       ` Nick Dokos
2013-01-10 23:05                       ` Bastien
2013-01-10 23:44                         ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-11  7:04                           ` Bastien
2013-01-11 12:28                             ` Bastien
2013-01-11 15:41                               ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-11 16:31                                 ` Bastien
2013-01-11 16:50                                 ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-11 16:40                               ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-11 16:58                                 ` Bastien
2013-01-11 17:04                                   ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-11 17:23                                     ` Bastien [this message]
2013-01-11 19:30                                       ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-11 20:19                                         ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-11 20:48                                           ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-12  6:57                                           ` Bastien
2013-01-12  6:56                                         ` Bastien
2013-01-12  7:44                                           ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-12  8:40                                             ` Bastien
2013-01-12 10:27                                               ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-12 11:03                                         ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-12 13:35                                           ` Bastien
2013-01-12 15:49                                             ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-12 16:06                                               ` Bastien
2013-01-12 16:17                                                 ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-12 16:12                                               ` Bastien
2013-01-12 16:24                                                 ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-11  9:12                           ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-10 23:27                       ` Stelian Iancu
2013-01-10 23:27                       ` Stelian Iancu
2013-01-10 20:09                 ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-10 22:30                   ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-10 22:55                     ` Nick Dokos
2013-01-11  8:58                     ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-10 19:37             ` Nick Dokos
2013-01-10 19:47 ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-13 22:08   ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-01-13 23:06     ` Stelian Iancu
2013-01-13 23:22       ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-01-14 21:44         ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-15  1:29           ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-01-15  6:07             ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-15 11:31               ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-01-15 12:22                 ` Nick Dokos
2013-01-15 13:36                   ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-01-15 13:49                     ` Nick Dokos
2013-01-15 18:58                 ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-15 20:17                   ` Thorsten Jolitz

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