From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jambunathan K Subject: Re: I have terminated my assignment Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 14:07:55 +0530 Message-ID: <87obdwm2l8.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87ppydmigz.fsf@gmail.com> <87ehesb1on.fsf@gmail.com> <933E4B38-1594-4300-BCA6-F781B2615DE5@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36473) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNJCx-000346-6K for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 04:38:16 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNJCv-0004NE-P8 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 04:38:15 -0400 Received: from mail-pa0-f53.google.com ([209.85.220.53]:59045) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNJCv-0004N3-IP for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 04:38:13 -0400 Received: by mail-pa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id bh4so782112pad.12 for ; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 01:38:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <933E4B38-1594-4300-BCA6-F781B2615DE5@gmail.com> (Carsten Dominik's message of "Wed, 3 Apr 2013 10:07:50 +0200") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > It is known that your intent has now changed, Correct. > but the original intent was plain to you and others Yes. > and has caused others to rely on the code, to add and invest. Code is GPL. Nicolas Goaziou has already grown in respect by committing a fix to the ODT exporter in a manner that makes Christian Moe happy. I am happy. I will not mention how much Bastien invested in a fix for the problem and how his fix fared when it was put to test. This pattern of Bastien playing to the gallery is not merely anecdotal but has repeated more or less regularly for the last 3 years or so. The truth of the matter is Bastien has been unwilling to spend substantial time maintaing Orgmode since he took over. I am unwilling to trust my work in the hands of someone whose sole purpose is to please the crowd but runs of shy of taking hard considered decisions or actually supporting the ongoing work. To my eyes, his maintainership is ceremonial. The unwanted side-effect is that he is having an influence that is incommensurate with the responsibility he is shouldering. > This is why I am helping to protect the code. Not to pry it away from > you[1], but to protect users of and contributors to Org-mode. If we > cannot trust that code contributed to a project like Org-mode can be > used and built upon, then the letter and spirit of free software is > endangered. Even if you try to paint yourself into the victim role, > you are quite the opposite in this situation. Fair enough. > [1] What would I have to gain from that? I would have more > fun rewriting it than I have writing this mail, but I do > what I consider necessary. Actions speak louder than words. That's where Nicolas Goaziou has scored very consistently. Bottomline: I will co-operate but not under current maintainer who has never acted in a way to win my trust. I am speaking of a 3 year horizon here. Jambunathan K.