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From: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
To: Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: three bugs/misfeatures in org-reveal (or is org-reveal the wrong way to reveal around point?)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 10:16:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87oapwqwie.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJcAo8v9FB2Mtpk_yZLvwZdii2yqDLyf7ERxoQdcKoFbieS7+w@mail.gmail.com> (Samuel Wales's message of "Sat, 17 Jan 2015 12:46:12 -0700")

Hello,

Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> writes:

> thanks for clarifying.  that seems to eliminate all possibility of
> specifying canonical visibility using org show variables.

Indeed.

> thus, this is a feature that is strangely missing in org, as opposed
> to a bug.

I agree. Also, I find the configuration in this area overly complicated.

> canonical visibility roughly means a visibility state that can be
> created at any time using org-cycle and arrow keys.
>
> for example, if only the first child is showing, then it is not
> canonical visibility.  the only things that should NOT show are
> entirely folded headers, blocks, etc.
>
> this is the only kind of visibility that i ever use unless i am doing
> a sparse tree, which is extremely rare.

I think we could simplify the show context configuration and, at the
same time, provide a way to show "canonical visibility". 

For example, we can merge `org-show-hierarchy-above',
`org-show-following-heading', `org-show-siblings' and
`org-show-entry-below' into a single variable,
`org-show-context-detail', where each context is associated to a level,
e.g., for current default configuration,

  ((default . 2)
   (occur-tree . 1)
   (tags-tree . 1)
   (isearch . 3)
   (bookmark-jump . 3))

where

  1. means only the minimal location is shown, i.e., top level
     headline + headline, and section (no child) if match is not on
     a headline.

  2. means context 1 + hierarchy above

  3. means context 2 + siblings

  4. means canonical view, i.e, show full hierarchy above and siblings,
     and, if match is within a section, show also section and all
     children.

We lose a bit of control, but I think left out combinations are not very
interesting. But I may be wrong.

WDYT?


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-18  9:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-05 22:50 three bugs/misfeatures in org-reveal (or is org-reveal the wrong way to reveal around point?) Samuel Wales
2013-08-06  7:41 ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-08-07  3:37   ` Samuel Wales
2015-01-17  1:23 ` Samuel Wales
2015-01-17  8:54   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-01-17 19:46     ` Samuel Wales
2015-01-18  9:16       ` Nicolas Goaziou [this message]
2015-01-18 20:26         ` Samuel Wales
2015-01-21 21:24           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-01-23 21:52             ` Samuel Wales

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