From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id 0DIuLPbykGCKUAAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 04 May 2021 09:08:38 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id SPg4J/bykGDkeAAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 04 May 2021 07:08:38 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1468837E78 for ; Tue, 4 May 2021 09:08:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:37916 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ldpAa-0001Nt-Ux for larch@yhetil.org; Tue, 04 May 2021 03:08:36 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41574) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ldopr-00036U-MU for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 04 May 2021 02:47:11 -0400 Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.197]:34169) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ldopp-0007mC-D1 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 04 May 2021 02:47:11 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 185.131.40.67 Received: from localhost (40-67.ipv4.commingeshautdebit.fr [185.131.40.67]) (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 41F1B1C0003; Tue, 4 May 2021 06:47:05 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou To: "Bruce D'Arcus" Subject: Re: Notes about citations in Org (part 3) References: <8735v91926.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87pmy989zt.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87tunl6ie6.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87h7jj7or4.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Mail-Followup-To: "Bruce D'Arcus" , Org Mode List Date: Tue, 04 May 2021 08:47:03 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Bruce D'Arcus's message of "Mon, 3 May 2021 18:25:36 -0400") Message-ID: <87o8dr807s.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.197; envelope-from=mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr; helo=relay5-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Org Mode List Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1620112118; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=pC9o96oQV95u8uqw+2CjMkjpWP8iEKM190CaQzFBES4=; b=UozEzr73q78phz0ZY1qDjKjwBQfCCjy5S+l31wM9jFCDgvJMHLoEF/mwZdHschrhFxfths YdT4NoO2O/9uQy1iq/V/aeav2JwrxjBDUV9IFAU9L906wtITH2jh1doHewwBE26vA5oK2a 6evn1a6I3QBazQrOZZZHm9J+/Eil22LzS3fCwjyFUox5NkS6illhvf2C1YBjX9WXDGAt7Q WNzzQjqZx62X1tb3+0/UH+9sosWLLCJeOlZYF6C3B7Pm7LRLnA3l39QNzOttkYFF/z68UG PCHfCBW2z9Pup3ABCesFD/X6tE0/pn7x04aRX14xPBqGXaDITRaOMPQ9tNz1sg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1620112118; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=MgGPggYTPm5wPgqfaD/QxHDvyfw5ONCKD/Mv8nZorVMPpQOZgWP+d2JY6NHInJvCyxE4W4 g4UuYM5WxhlvD4QOBDQo18y5d3B7FUNHETa84WlnVXlMzAQL4eTG2c3HCjE4iyOFynKfsI sBiKDXfoFMteBxQ2j4lGpzSzIOFEjS0DRq6NuKRGRgAOC4ML0WOypMHcMb5etlEfw6W5Xn f6xrwXZPohPbrlTLbWE8/ZBzq6/EMgk8ZODu7bsjO9QTPEWbhL07mEHEVN4UbqbBUYbt4t eAubP4HGjLqfexim5rV03Lxbt6U3vwXDChUSrm0GNokiiK14NB9j6oDOXeoslw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.46 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 1468837E78 X-Spam-Score: -2.46 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: xZj4lOfpdHa/ Hello, "Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 12:42 PM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > >> Anyway, I suggest to let it nil, and select it at the document level >> instead, with >> >> #+cite_export: basic bibstyle citestyle > > What is the significance of the last two items? These are the default styles used for bibliography and citations, in the sense of Org "styles", i.e., [cite/citestyle:...] #+print_bibliography: bibstyle > In a CSL implementation like citeproc-el, both are defined in a single > style. > > Are they defined separately in other systems? IIUC, you can combine different bibliography and citation styles in LaTeX. Maybe some LaTeX users could confirm this. > And if the processor is citeproc-org, where does one put the "foo.csl" > style? That may be orthogonal. If you use a given "foo.csl", does it still make sense to provide styles to print_bibliography keywords and citations? If that's the case, the citeproc style file could be introduced with a oc-citeproc specific keyword. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou