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aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=NXnDB3jw; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.30 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=NXnDB3jw; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 87428FF44 X-Spam-Score: -4.30 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: F4+3XSYDASSt Rudolf Adamkovi=C4=8D <salutis@me.com> writes: > If I remember well, Org decided to suggest with lowercase keywords (and > use uppercase keywords in the manual, for some reason). Then, we should > change "org-babel-results-keyword" from "RESULTS" to "results". > > (1) Example #1 > > #+begin_src R :results verbatim :wrap example > [=E2=80=A6] > #+end_src > > #+RESULT: [<--- inconsistent] > #+begin_example > > [=E2=80=A6] > #+end_example > > (2) Example #2 > > #+begin_src R :results verbatim :wrap EXAMPLE > [=E2=80=A6] > #+end_src > > > #+RESULT: > > #+begin_EXAMPLE [<---- still inconsistent] > [=E2=80=A6] > #+end_EXAMPLE > > P.S. Org should not leak potentially sensitive information, such as > "/Users/salutis/", in the subject of its bug reports. > > Rudy > This is probably a can of worms not worth opening! >From a technical perspective, case does not matter. Originally, the 'styhle' was to use upper case letters for things like #+BEGIN et. al. (which is probably why they are in upper case in the manual).=20 Then (I think it was with the change to the code to insert block markers) there was a change to use #+begin_*. However, I think for those who reverted to the old block insertion method (now based on tempo), you still get things in upper case. The point is, the begin v BEGIN issue is to some extent bordering on becoming a religious argument and one which is unlikely to gain consensus. While personally I agree with your point and for consistency, I think the default should be lower case, it really doesn't matter. Everyone will have their personal preferences and while it is trivial to set to your preferred format, it is one of those issues which will likely generate lots of noise with little resolution.=20=20