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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1646251197; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=cjr7nzxZPiF6adTFkVPq1iNgHVjX8DEuATbAhQ+sFmk=; b=mJuA+ueCeREPMWaKvIZq+Tzic47Sj5X7BUxPXKE1wy6MhjbQYXgE7J9S7Er+89Su/lXBCb Jg2LZra97iAnMi3hJiFs92/a4/v0jX2Tt89Pa4BnaqSCbOdpQZq2bRkHd556Vtg0QTszrk v+ofqsTez9w8c9II59SWv9+58xNd50vD7eYwEVT6/AGXHQaCk72IlDIHBxeblJzBk9LQwF 706WFAAOQtCKj5PQSY6n7nfXLLRa5NskZB+aAtf0sPymo88UxsXMjz+O1P7JNL1XNhDDIZ fQoKaf0eFGtP6MvkRYOOAK3mx6Hxg5i9tesGCcw6RqMfyeFDWvWXLp0aP/BjVg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1646251197; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=fJNrB7aS8TrDJ0rNlqK4sCa8+k/sYZrb2dwZ7Nl+BwDuBp/ICbYyaUy2kIC1IwPlVmIFdL T5QRgVbK398iWzOxLyICv8glwMTfJKSVo9fKBpZB6BV/px36FjSSuylQyayaegcxQmBGyb 5YeLkEJOKmJhex7lJW7GX44DeS+FYx06n4C9LKH5OQYpHoINt4pIwI8W3pPQL3Zmv+4IMM g4SxcPyoBw8zxf6F3OEocG4ovZgzDWk3RCL4lmw8UjaXoA7IQQ44oq34Gpm/steF6YibMz A7EN1Q1DcxC8k83vxRiRyFuH4btqmiG+4+oTZrSjpxb/0zjNU2ZlrqTB2ILcDQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.87 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: C836C1F0AD X-Spam-Score: -3.87 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: /PO3yazn6ufp Hello Matt, Thanks for your reply and advice. :) I already use Org-mode since a few years and it work great with little tasks. Tasks that take a few hours maximum. My workflow is GTD, or something very close (I'm not an expert of this subject). My concern was more for school works that need many days. I don't want to see, too late, on my agenda, a work to do. Like seeing 3 days before the deadline that I need to do a 5 days work. It never append because, when I got a lot to do for school, I stop using Org-mode to don't take the risk. So, in reality, I don't know if it will append. Maybe it's an irrational fear. But, because I often got a lot of work to do for school, I spend a lot of time not using Org-mode. Matt writes: > ---- On Mon, 28 Feb 2022 20:43:47 -0500 S=C3=A9bastien Gendre wrote ---- > > > And I don't know how to manage this kind of projects with Org-mode. How > > to do it, without failing a 6 days project because I spent to much time > > on something else and I have only 3 days left with 3 half-day important > > appointment I cannot cancel. I can't risk failing a single one of these > > project by trying. So, when I am in a period with a lot of these > > projects, I stop using Org-mode and concentrate on doing these project > > as fast as I can. And because I often have this kind of project, I spe= nd > > most of the year without being able to use Org-mode. > > It sounds like you have a lot going on! If none of what you need to do > explicitly requires Org, you may have to scale back what you learn > about Org to fit the time you've got. Give yourself permission to > accept that the time you have right now for Org isn't what you want. > (I hope that's because you're learning lots of other cool things in > school.) In situations like these, I like to do just a little each > day. Maybe that means reading one paragraph a night before bed. It > sounds like you're really excited about Org. (If you are, you've come > to the right place. The people here love Org :) Reading about Org > would be something fun to look forward to each night. You might be > surprised at how motivating that one little paragraph can be! Working > through the manual in this way will give you a good overview of how > Org can be used and what you personally might use Org it for. > > > So, if you have any suggestion on how to manage, in Org-mode, projects > > with: > > * Lot of work to do (many days) > > * Short deadline (not enough time) > > * High importance (disastrous consequences in my future in case of fai= l) > > * Many of them in the same time > > * Progression need to be followed to chose where to sacrifice time to > > limit the damages > >=20 > > I will be happy to read them. :) > > My suggestion is to not try something new on anything that has a tight > deadline. Org is new to you and learning things takes time. This is > all normal. Life will throw a lot at you. Some times all I get is 20 > minutes at the end of the day. Some days, I get nothing at all. This > is because I've filled my life with other cool things, like a partner, > a house, friends, etc. If I get to spend some time doing something I > think is worthwhile (like trying to help a fellow Org enthusiast), > that's time well spent in my book. > > Isn't there some saying that goes like, "every avalance starts as a snowf= lake?" Read a little, experiment a little, and over time, you'll be surpris= ed at how much you've learned. You'll get there!=20=20