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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
To: Tom Gillespie <tgbugs@gmail.com>
Cc: Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com>,
	 emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Simplified Org mode for newcomer Emacs veterans (was: Org mode and Emacs (was: Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package))
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2022 18:56:03 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o7yq44vw.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+G3_PPGLV595Kf+E=A1NO5QQgVOnUK0h--TyBDG0rAXfBb_ug@mail.gmail.com>

Tom Gillespie <tgbugs@gmail.com> writes:

> With regard to the key-bindings straw man. I guess I'm a bit of an
> outsider on this one, because I started writing org documents by just
> typing them in and only over time learning some of the bindings. Maybe
> having an org-markup-mode or something like that would be a way to
> provide a sandbox for the +recalcitrants+ newcomers? It might also be
> a nice way to a/b test them on whether the Emacs editing commands
> really are as good as they think they are (said the evil-mode user).

It can be either a simplified org-markup-mode or a series of minor-modes
that enable different sets of bindings. Something like:
org-structure-edit-mode, org-table-edit-mode, org-babel-edit-mode, etc

However, the tricky question is: What should be the default?

If we have org-markup-mode (disabled by default), how would the
newcomers know to enable it?

If we have the alternative set of minor modes and disable them by
default, will the existing Org mode users accept the need to adjust the
configuration?

Can we address the above concerns without dissatisfying neither the
existing Org users nor the newcomers?

Best,
Ihor


  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-18 10:55 UTC|newest]

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2022-06-14  0:43                                         ` Org mode and Emacs (was: Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package) Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-15  5:58                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-16 10:05                                             ` Tom Gillespie
2022-06-18 10:56                                               ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2022-06-18 22:04                                                 ` Simplified Org mode for newcomer Emacs veterans (was: Org mode and Emacs (was: Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package)) Tim Cross
2022-06-19  8:49                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-17  6:42                                             ` Org syntax compatibility with texinfo syntax " Ihor Radchenko
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2022-06-15  6:13                                             ` Cusom special block export, similar org org-link :export parameter (was: Org mode and Emacs) Ihor Radchenko

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