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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1664312756; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=yK/vweK63U3Y6nuRVa0suribtAmcdQFmzaddsq7xCr0=; b=M9bGT9z1vYWh0yPb3CAVdib1Sbs74uydTwCKPFNid5kR0W4vkBUb1TcvZlOK9WClo3zeiP msS2q+Gl6PjGGujm7yRjZN1RGQYSc71QXruy+1cFZjxU3hmfK6WRXfmDVd9uVGQyNdVu37 FQZn/BDAwhtVuNZKiQXEOKq/PCpZmsOWx6eVaY2HWEp3FOvUvBpGDzKjpl76OCegVtY1e9 Y7pILUm7mF3zS40RWMK1FDValTn+AN6FuUMHE7s44lrt4e8fMD/JfpeqAXfxnnFTVdbD07 7tQmHrNPCGqmFmlb0jHC40QW5sQRynqyq7GXlGmUeKUI7WQdU/a2RwLf9MJ6Fg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1664312756; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=ojE2VJdl5bL5YOqg2syrDN91XXa3IcyH9sxCFLiCO4ztQRmuImTbUw73dSN2L4U5uZjQ7+ q8d7jq83Fdj4xYKdIcDSrlXJurzl+A20hK4wJFczHjtYRzPObv0ggb7AOlmrKG+IPtM7GJ o76QTa0pfxTyidh8kAjbl+fO8c+bGyGfsiOsxpGx5uTr4ji8hxP0Mc7o9YBeTfU4okwLwF Ocp4Erm/LHgiA9G8uw0edv2WiK7ZzcNLSeU4vmpeDFx9p8/2YgYAvPsAjqQctqZrubgPNO Rt5s4Lt+CT8nte9UEKBJOxnpXxqbT9BzEYdsGfbVkqYx1zyiuNhaGbKRUGbaVw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=dPOBblOg; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.54 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=dPOBblOg; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 4914D32067 X-Spam-Score: -3.54 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: nNwDtEe41uMM Ihor Radchenko writes: > The main question we need to answer is who is going to maintain that > Discourse instance. AFAIU, Bastien is mainly concerned with the extra > maintenance burden. Not just this: I'm concerned with setting up a user-to-user discussion space that reify a split between users (on a forum) and developers (on the mailing list). If a community-driven Discourse instance for Org emerges, that will be a good thing: people could go there instead (or on top) of SO/reddit if they don't want/like to interact on a mailing list. If this instance is stable and useful enough and futur Org maintainers feel like this should be advertized as forum.orgmode.org, they will be able to do it of course. -- Bastien