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It is just >> `setq', often used in place of `setopt', that does not trigger >> loading/unloading. > > Speaking of which, since we now (or are about to?) depend on compat, we > can just do (require 'compat) and forget that `setopt' is an Emacs 29 > addition. No. Compat does not support and does not plan to support `setopt' (see https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/doc/compat.html#Limitations). And it is not us who needs to use `setopt', but users. We just have to deal with de facto situation with users using `setq' mindlessly. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at