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In-Reply-To: <87wmspb7yj.fsf@> References: Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2024 16:20:01 +0000 Message-ID: <87o7e1hxzi.fsf@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Scanner: mx13.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.27 X-Spam-Score: -3.27 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 26E12423A8 X-TUID: 85cECNBfAAN5 Ant via "General discussions about Org-mode." writes: > I've been using Emacs+Org Mode on my Linux and Android devices > for some time now and have been encountering some little synchronization > issues that have made it difficult for me to use Org as a task manager. > ... > One such concrete instance of this problem is when I clock-in an > entry from my smartphone and then try to edit another entry from my > laptop with no Internet connection. Syncthing has no way to perform an > automatic conflict resolution and couldn't care less if the edits on the > .org file are disjointed or not. You can try https://github.com/bcpierce00/unison Also, there is https://github.com/Artawower/orgnote.el (still in early development). > Alternatively, I'd also like to now if there could be in the future > solutions like obsidian-livesync > (https://github.com/vrtmrz/obsidian-livesync) which apparently allow to > perform live synchronization over multiple writes on the same file. I > don't really need to know if someone will work on it (which is obviously > unpredictable) but rather if it would be feasible or if Emacs (being > single threaded, for example) and Org could instead be a blocker. Single threading is not an issue. In fact, Emacs already has https://code.librehq.com/qhong/crdt.el that provides live collaborative editing. In theory, you might even make crdt.el work on your phone with the new official Emacs Android port. Might be tricky though. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at