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From: "Juan Manuel Macías" <maciaschain@posteo.net>
To: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [proof of concept] inline language blocks
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 2024 10:41:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o7bzd02m.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <urpab2$ad6$1@ciao.gmane.io> (Max Nikulin's message of "Thu, 29 Feb 2024 14:05:02 +0700")

Max Nikulin writes:

>> the user should expect something like &foo{...} to produce \foo{...} or
>> <span class=foo>...</span>, etc. The only difference is that there would
>> be an anonymous variant &_{...}.
>
> I do not try to dispute \foo and class="foo" as default behavior. I
> suggest to implement possibility to override default behavior of
> &foo{text} to \bar{text} and <bar>text</bar>. The same is applicable
> for anonymous objects
>
>      &_[:latex_command bar :html_element bar]{text}

Maxim, I insist that I follow the logic of the "large" special blocks.

Anyway, I think your example only makes sense in HTML, or at least I
can't make sense of it in LaTeX. Why would anyone want &foo{text} to be
passed to LaTeX as \bar{text}, instead of just &bar{text}? In HTML it
does seem sensible to me that someone would want to change the tags.
Maybe with a :html-tag, or something like that.

As for :latex-command, if I understand it correctly, I don't quite see
how useful this could be:

&foo[:latex-command bar]{text} == LaTeX ==> \bar{text}

when it is simpler to put:

&bar{text}

The same thing happens with the anonymous variant:

&_[:latex-command foo]{text} == LaTeX ==> \foo{text}

which is identical to putting &foo{text}

The anonymous variant would be equivalent in LaTeX to a
\begingroup...\endgroup, or rather to {...}. One could add all the
commands one wants within the group simply with :prelatex:

&_[:prelatex \foo\bar\vaz\blah{}]{text}

==> {\foo\bar\vaz\blah{}text}

I'm not opposed to your ideas, I just can't find a use case for it. In
LaTeX, I mean. In the case of HTML I find it useful, indeed, to have
more control over the tags: <foo></foo>, <bar></bar>, etc.

In any case, I think that my implementation leaves open the possibility
of extending it with everything you mentioned, or anything else. 


-- 
Juan Manuel Macías -- Composición tipográfica, tratamiento de datos, diseño editorial y ortotipografía



  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-29 10:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-20 20:35 [proof of concept] inline language blocks Juan Manuel Macías
2024-02-21  8:42 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-02-21 10:57   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-02-21 12:00     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-02-21 12:53       ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-02-21 13:10         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-02-21 14:13           ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-02-21 20:32             ` [proof of concept] inline-special-block (was: [proof of concept] inline language blocks) Juan Manuel Macías
2024-02-21 23:29               ` [proof of concept] inline-special-block Juan Manuel Macías
2024-02-22 22:03               ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-02-21 22:11             ` [proof of concept] inline language blocks Samuel Wales
2024-02-21 22:28               ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-02-21 22:55                 ` Samuel Wales
2024-02-21 23:02                 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-02-28 10:29                   ` Max Nikulin
2024-02-28 13:15                     ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-02-28 17:21                       ` Max Nikulin
2024-02-28 23:42                         ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-02-29  7:05                           ` Max Nikulin
2024-02-29 10:41                             ` Juan Manuel Macías [this message]
2024-02-29 12:05                               ` Max Nikulin
2024-02-29 12:50                                 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-02-21 23:33         ` Suhail Singh
2024-03-31 14:56 ` Daniel Clemente
2024-03-31 15:20   ` Ihor Radchenko

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