From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: =?utf-8?Q?Fran=C3=A7ois_Pinard?= Subject: Re: gnus: link annoyance Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2014 20:37:08 -0500 Message-ID: <87mwj7w8xn.fsf@iro.umontreal.ca> References: <87zjn9w79w.fsf@iro.umontreal.ca> <87k3edcbe5.fsf@alphaville.bos.redhat.com> <87lhys2x24.fsf@iro.umontreal.ca> <87wqic0zdm.fsf@gmail.com> <87wqibdd6n.fsf@iro.umontreal.ca> <87y52r4noi.fsf@Rainer.invalid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51340) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0i57-0004IV-F9 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 20:37:22 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0i50-0000Vg-0O for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 20:37:17 -0500 Received: from 206-248-137-202.dsl.teksavvy.com ([206.248.137.202]:60686 helo=mercure.progiciels-bpi.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0i4z-0000Vc-RE for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 20:37:09 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87y52r4noi.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (Achim Gratz's message of "Tue, 07 Jan 2014 20:06:05 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Achim Gratz writes: > Fran=C3=A7ois Pinard writes: >> Org could tell Gnus that I am not really reading an article as if I was >> using Gnus interactively. > You keep saying that; while clearly you could coerce Gnus into doing > something like that I'm not sure Gnus would entertain to listen to > such a request. This is probably best asked on a Gnus mailing list, > but it seems that Gnus wants to present search results in an ephemeral > group. If you treat a link as a search that finds one article, then > the problem you're trying to solve goes away, I'd think. The whole discussion is about how Org mode should best follow "gnus:" links. I surely do not mind if Org uses ephemeral groups or any other kind of machinery. My only suggestion is that, whatever the mechanics, Org following a "gnus:" link should manage so Gnus does not change the article flags. If Org asks Gnus to perform a search to locate a given article, it seems like overkill to me, but I may well be wrong and not see the advantages. Fran=C3=A7ois