From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord) Subject: Re: Organizing and taming hectic Academia work (faculty viewpoint)? Tips or a good guides sought after :) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 15:56:11 +0100 Message-ID: <87mw06jnuc.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> References: <7e093509.51e.14ddb300091.Coremail.chxp_moon@163.com> <87r3pjgu0j.fsf@posteo.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36044) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z33u2-0005oU-CP for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:56:24 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z33tx-0005W8-BJ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:56:22 -0400 Received: from cheviot12.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.234.12]:42582) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z33tx-0005Pd-36 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:56:17 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87r3pjgu0j.fsf@posteo.de> (Titus von der Malsburg's message of "Wed, 10 Jun 2015 13:58:52 -0700") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Titus von der Malsburg Cc: emacs-orgmode I didn't know about this -- this could be a killer feature for me. I work a lot with biologists and medics and they are completely word-centric. Phil Titus von der Malsburg writes: > On 2015-06-10 Wed 07:14, Ken Mankoff wrote: >> I found a happy medium working in Org, exporting to LaTeX, and then >> using Pandoc to convert to Word. > > With ox-pandoc you can export to .docx directly. No need to go through > LaTeX. Ox-pandoc is pretty amazing. > > Titus > >> I would send the Word and always the canonical PDF version in case some >> equations got messed up. This requires manually incorporating the tracked >> changes from Word, but I've never been a fan of just clicking "accept" on >> changes anyway, and don't mind the manual re-integration of comments. >> >> -k. >>=20=20=20 >> >> On 2015-06-10 at 09:49, John Kitchin wrote: >>> Speaking as an advisor/teacher, you should do what they want if you want >>> them to help you. >>> >>> You could ask if they are willing to comment on the pdf, either by hand >>> writing on a printed version, or by pdf commenting, or maybe in the >>> LaTeX source. But, if that is not what they want, and they cannot work >>> with what you give them, you will not get as much feedback as you want, >>> and you will end up creating frustration on your end and theirs. >>> >>> windy writes: >>> >>>> Another question, I am a student , I think it is a big problem that ho= w to >>>> exchange you article with your teacher, because the teacher will comme= nt >>>> or revise your article once again and again. >>>> >>>> However, Many teachers will not use emacs to write articles and also t= he >>>> pdf file is not so convenient to do some modification, how will you de= al >>>> with the problem ? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> =E5=9C=A82015=E5=B9=B406=E6=9C=8809 21=E6=97=B621=E5=88=86, "John Kitc= hin"=E5=86=99=E9=81=93: >>>> >>>> you might also enjoy our youtube video: >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfgizHHd7nOo >>>> >>>> And this one on using org-mode in teaching: >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DIsSMs-4GlT8&list=3DFLQp2VLAOlvq142YN= 3JO3y8w >>>> >>>> and >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DcRUCiF2MwP4 >>>> >>>> See http://github.com/jkitchin/jmax for my Emacs setup for >>>> org-mode. >>>> >>>> My only other advice is start learning to program in emacs-lisp. It to= ok >>>> me about four years to get proficient enough to write org-ref. I learn= ed >>>> by solving lots of little problems, and building up to bigger >>>> problems. A lot of those are documented in my blog. Read the emacs and >>>> emacs-lisp manuals (read them in Emacs or in a browser). They take some >>>> time, so skip the stuff that doesn't make sense and come back to it >>>> later if you need to. Consider getting the book at >>>> https://www.masteringemacs.org. It isn't about org-mode, but it will >>>> make you better at using Emacs. Consider reading Land of Lisp. It isn't >>>> about Emacs or Emacs-lisp, but it might interest you in programming in= a >>>> lispy language, and it is a fun read. >>>> >>>> Buy the org-mode book: >>>> http://www.amazon.com/Org-Mode-Reference-Manual-Organize/dp/9881327709= /ref=3Dsr_1_1?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1433855847&sr=3D8-1&keywords=3Dorg-mode. >>>> yes, >>>> it is the same stuff as in the manual, but it is a book you can read >>>> anywhere anytime. >>>> >>>> Start by learning how to get org-mode to do some things you want. Just >>>> do one thing a day. Every day. >>>> >>>> You hopefully have 30+ years of career ahead of you, so even if it tak= es >>>> a few years or more to learn how to program in emacs-lisp to customize >>>> your workflows, you still have plenty of time to benefit from it! >>>> >>>> Best wishes, >>>> >>>> Holger Wenzel writes: >>>> >>>>> Hi Xebar, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Xebar Saram gmail.com> writes: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Martin >>>>>> Thanks so much for your prompt response. I did ofc do an extensive g= oogle >>>>> research yet found that as can be seen in your link most entries focu= s on >>>>> either writing papers or general bits an pieces .What i am looking fo= r is a >>>>> holistic approach regarding organizing all aspects of academic life a= nd to >>>>> hear workflows of other colleagues using org for that >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'd start with: >>>>> >>>>> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/blog/2014/08/08/What-we-are-using-o= rg- >>>>> mode-for/ >>>>> >>>>> follow John Kitchin's blog there closely and read everything he posts= in >>>>> this list. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Holger >>>>>> z >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 12:16 AM, M web.de> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Von: Xebar Saram gmail.com> >>>>>> > Datum: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 19:39:14 +0300 >>>>>> > An: org mode gnu.org> >>>>>> > Betreff: [O] Organizing and taming hectic Academia work (faculty >>>>> viewpoint)? >>>>>> > Tips or a good guides sought after :) >>>>>> >> Hi all >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Im a young assistant professor (in humanities and thus my horrific >>>>> coding >>>>>> > skills..basically non ) and having been using orgmode for a year o= r two >>>>>> > now. I love orgmode dearly and use it mainly for note taking, list= s etc >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I am aware of the fantastic orgmode capabilities that could benefi= t me >>>>> greatly >>>>>> > such as exporting, email tie-ins, beamer support, organizing my >>>>> bibliography >>>>>> > (i have switched to a .bib file recently for my references), agenda >>>>>> > capabilities and so much moreand have tried several of these with = mild >>>>>> > success. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > unfortunately (and this maybe due to me not being very technical a= nd >>>>> lack of >>>>>> > coding skills) i still feel like im really not using orgmode to its >>>>> potential >>>>>> > and still feel miserably lost in terms of organizing my work in ac= ademia >>>>> from >>>>>> > all aspects. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > i am looking for 2 things really: >>>>>> > 1. as i said in the post topic a good guide if anyone is aware of = or >>>>> detailed >>>>>> > examples of using org in Academia (mainly aimed at faculty :)) >>>>>> > >>>>>> > 2. related to that as a young researcher with multiple students, p= aper >>>>>> > writing, grant applications, department duties, endless TODOS, end= less >>>>> email i >>>>>> > would really be grateful for even non org specific tips on how oth= er >>>>> people >>>>>> > organize all this to make life more..well..organized :) >>>>>> > >>>>>> > thanks alot in advance and sorry for the long mail >>>>>> > >>>>>> > best >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Z >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Xebar, >>>>>> I think the first 10 results of the correspondindg google search alr= eady >>>>>> show some very interesting examples:http://www.google.com/search? >>>>> client=3Dsafari&rls=3Den&q=3Demacs+org-mode+in+resear >>>>>> ch&ie=3DUTF-8&oe=3DUTF-8 >>>>>> Did you have a look at those? >>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>> Martin >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > --=20 Phillip Lord, Phone: +44 (0) 191 208 7827 Lecturer in Bioinformatics, Email: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk School of Computing Science, http://homepages.cs.ncl.ac.uk/phill= ip.lord Room 914 Claremont Tower, skype: russet_apples Newcastle University, twitter: phillord NE1 7RU=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20