Google SoC organisation application

Google SoC organisation application

[TEC]

Hello All,

Google's SoC organisation applications are currently open, and close on
<2020-02-20>. I know that Org participated once, in 2012.

Would it be a good idea to submit an application to do so again?
With the rise in interest in computational notebooks, blogging tools,
and other features that Org possesses I'd imagine we have a decent shot.

If so, we have just over two weeks to do so.

All the best,

Timothy.

Re: Google SoC organisation application

[Jose E. Marchesi]

> Google's SoC organisation applications are currently open, and close on
> <2020-02-20>. I know that Org participated once, in 2012.
>
> Would it be a good idea to submit an application to do so again?
> With the rise in interest in computational notebooks, blogging tools,
> and other features that Org possesses I'd imagine we have a decent shot.
>
> If so, we have just over two weeks to do so.

Note that, as always, the GNU Project will be applying as a mentoring
organization [1] [2].

This means that, in case org-mode doesn't apply or doesn't get admitted
as a mentoring organization (and of course assuming GNU is accepted)
org-related projects can still be done under the overall GNU umbrella.

Salud!


[1] http://www.gnu.org/s/soc-projects
[2] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/summer-of-code/

Re: Google SoC organisation application

[TEC]

Jose E. Marchesi <jemarch@gnu.org> writes:

>> Google's SoC organisation applications are currently open, and close on
>> <2020-02-20>. I know that Org participated once, in 2012.
>>
>> Would it be a good idea to submit an application to do so again?
>> With the rise in interest in computational notebooks, blogging tools,
>> and other features that Org possesses I'd imagine we have a decent shot.
>>
>> If so, we have just over two weeks to do so.
>
> Note that, as always, the GNU Project will be applying as a mentoring
> organization [1] [2].

That's nice, I don't see Org listed under
https://www.gnu.org/software/soc-projects/ideas-2020.html but good to
know (particularly for any SoC eligible people reading this ML) :)

If nothing else, I think it could be worth applying separately for the
extra recognition, and perhaps Google might approve more applications
when Org and GNU are both listed? I don't really know how this works in
depth though.

--
Timothy

Re: Google SoC organisation application

[Daniele Nicolodi]

On 02/02/2021 10:54, TEC wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> Google's SoC organisation applications are currently open, and close on
> <2020-02-20>. I know that Org participated once, in 2012.
> 
> Would it be a good idea to submit an application to do so again?
> With the rise in interest in computational notebooks, blogging tools,
> and other features that Org possesses I'd imagine we have a decent shot.

Applying only makes sense if there are concrete ideas about projects
suitable for GSoC participants and if only if there are Org contributors
that can work as mentors.

Suitable projects should be of the right level of complexity for the
students to have a chance to have them implemented in the allotted time,
which this year is not much, and have a clear design approved by the Org
maintainers, so that most of the time available to the students will not
be spent discussing it.

Do you have any idea about suitable projects?

However, I I think the availability of mentors can be the hardest
requirement. I think that it would not be fair for the students if the
code they would produce does not have good chances to entering the code
base in a timely fashion. Thus, mentors (or, at least, co-mentors)
should be among the Org maintainers. Is anyone available?

Please understand that the GSoC is not a way to get labor for the
project sponsored by Google: it is very likely that the time investment
required to the mentors would be more than enough to implement what the
students will do during the GSoC. The GSoC is more an opportunity to
form a possible future long term contributor to the project.

Cheers,
Dan

Re: Google SoC organisation application

[TEC]

All good points, but I'll just quickly respond to this:

Daniele Nicolodi <daniele@grinta.net> writes:

> Please understand that the GSoC is not a way to get labor for the
> project sponsored by Google: it is very likely that the time investment
> required to the mentors would be more than enough to implement what the
> students will do during the GSoC. The GSoC is more an opportunity to
> form a possible future long term contributor to the project.

As it happens, this is precisely why I decided to start this thread. I
see GSoC as a great chance to help people who have been tentatively
considering getting into Org development a little push and hopefully
create some new long-term contributors :)

With projects, I know I at least have no shortage of ideas; mentors
might be hard though 🤔.

--
Timothy

Re: Google SoC organisation application

[Jose E. Marchesi]

>>> Google's SoC organisation applications are currently open, and close on
>>> <2020-02-20>. I know that Org participated once, in 2012.
>>>
>>> Would it be a good idea to submit an application to do so again?
>>> With the rise in interest in computational notebooks, blogging tools,
>>> and other features that Org possesses I'd imagine we have a decent shot.
>>>
>>> If so, we have just over two weeks to do so.
>>
>> Note that, as always, the GNU Project will be applying as a mentoring
>> organization [1] [2].
>
> That's nice, I don't see Org listed under
> https://www.gnu.org/software/soc-projects/ideas-2020.html but good to
> know (particularly for any SoC eligible people reading this ML) :)
>
> If nothing else, I think it could be worth applying separately for the
> extra recognition, and perhaps Google might approve more applications
> when Org and GNU are both listed? I don't really know how this works in
> depth though.

Applying separately is _always_ a good idea in GSOC.  It basically means
more odds to get more slots for projects.