From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id 4JnFMzz4iGAbAQEAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 07:53:00 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id YJhBLzz4iGAUGAAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 05:53:00 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 314DE1C045 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 07:53:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:54276 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lbd86-0002RK-UR for larch@yhetil.org; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 01:52:58 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48904) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lbd7h-0002RC-46 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 01:52:33 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38415) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lbd7g-0004vo-SO; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 01:52:32 -0400 Received: from [2a01:e34:ec2b:7150:1feb:cddf:61f7:dc72] (port=53756 helo=guerry) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lbd7g-0004nf-Hi; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 01:52:32 -0400 Received: by guerry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 198D71A60EA9; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 07:52:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Bastien To: Timothy Subject: Re: [WDYT, mini] key h in agenda for quick help In-Reply-To: <87sg3b3r84.fsf@gmail.com> (Timothy's message of "Wed, 28 Apr 2021 13:36:44 +0800") Organization: GNU References: <87eehuerb2.fsf@gmail.com> <871rav11s3.fsf@gnu.org> <87v9873sy3.fsf@gmail.com> <87a6pjath2.fsf@gnu.org> <87sg3b3r84.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 07:52:31 +0200 Message-ID: <87mttj7y74.fsf@bzg.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Marco Wahl , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1619589180; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=typGZMW9AG6hcNQDcQl1ODtORX5XMBCAquv4SM4rNtM=; b=ZCl+GLGkn5iS1GN6vkRKDVGMab96yNKkdg/uY7oICoLJjPwt2FaQAm47wbAEo+JxKsu/vh WiYhr+cVUMbOD/FZiozicNBqM2fCax+S0E75DFLgfsPI5cxwaf3EcQRfY2JsGyXcFlHdYI 3eQTAN/fqH7PfIRk5UksgqhwTgbhkhjo2UquVrBhz1KUthyzvhZEUQWHM5pvmffWdEK0wC Ju5ndF/NBleZOqegfStLqJsEGswvWMQcfsleUIHSvt4FY+31B3wWo2U9bRaRGySlp29V6m QBx7iVTMuVnvTuI9h1PWtO7naWhQjaRhiGg6kqtmZ83WZWLsyfwUR3TS3Hbh8w== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1619589180; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=hF+NFH9tWVSTYD4Rx5hwdMl4ZEBu+/LK9MoZp5H7YLI8qw3+Jeqyx03m/nPxD17R+SOGVm QVKmlMzpKj0QmcTV9yeOpQFPKi6GZlHXY7kEwNy3Crji3kvpdd5Z233j23TfwC+MY9g0aK 9mdkI3+5ZY6w4Qpnk9RB+G/hdKC80tZJ754QBgEvUH4ZRCQjSAH2CyIzZKmF6jAanIEq5e nLs7W7bPqNxCj+uIk9ETL7M0qJNE8WfoistBD0qtt7wJGaPjicLzARG5/RNa+4z0wO4fXx D9OJzGwsqRE8ZsParZm8eMIkfCKPoXCJmFhizFz0kx+rIfJYge2Gqx4IcH2Jbw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.95 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 314DE1C045 X-Spam-Score: -2.95 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: Dlv5hKwU7W9s Timothy writes: > Great to hear! I think this would probably be developed as a branch like > wip-cite-new Yes. > , and it would need transient to be installed (via ELPA?) on > Emacs <28, but I think it has the potential to both: > - Improve the user experience, and > - Remove Org's own home-cooked transient-ish interfaces, > so leave us with less code to watch over Yes, exactly. Also there is plan to include Transient in Emacs core, so this makes this move even more appealing: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2021-04/msg00944.html