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[203.206.2.165]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id dw18sm1645767pjb.36.2021.05.02.00.14.28 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 02 May 2021 00:14:29 -0700 (PDT) References: <878s4x3bwh.fsf@gnu.org> User-agent: mu4e 1.5.12; emacs 28.0.50 From: Tim Cross To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: [POLL] Setting `org-adapt-indentation' to nil by default? 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I think it will be less surprising for users and those who want that type of indentation can easily enable it. -- Tim Cross