From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id IAhXK92qkmDYjQAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 05 May 2021 16:25:33 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id IO8KJ92qkmBnKwAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 05 May 2021 14:25:33 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 238839393 for ; Wed, 5 May 2021 16:25:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:55300 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1leISv-00064f-Rg for larch@yhetil.org; Wed, 05 May 2021 10:25:29 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44778) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1leISC-00062Q-63 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 05 May 2021 10:24:44 -0400 Received: from relay12.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.232]:39153) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1leIS9-0004KH-P8 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 05 May 2021 10:24:43 -0400 Received: from localhost (40-67.ipv4.commingeshautdebit.fr [185.131.40.67]) (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay12.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0A97F20000D; Wed, 5 May 2021 14:24:37 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou To: =?utf-8?Q?Andr=C3=A1s?= Simonyi Subject: Re: Notes about citations in Org (part 3) References: <8735v91926.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87pmyb80qk.fsf@gnu.org> <87sg34udy6.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87czu77ohl.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87v97y7sie.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87bl9qaktw.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87r1im7qgr.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87pmy68zjs.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <8735v27i8m.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <874kfi8pti.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87eeem5ta5.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Mail-Followup-To: =?utf-8?Q?Andr=C3=A1s?= Simonyi , "Bruce D'Arcus" , Org Mode List Date: Wed, 05 May 2021 16:24:37 +0200 In-Reply-To: (=?utf-8?Q?=22Andr=C3=A1s?= Simonyi"'s message of "Tue, 4 May 2021 21:04:45 +0200") Message-ID: <87mtt945sq.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.178.232; envelope-from=mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr; helo=relay12.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Org Mode List , Bruce D'Arcus Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1620224733; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=T7MJW+etY/QUZyP5kAFQKfVHBMZ7ZhM7uU5mDs+Qkys=; b=mp5FwK8dfDIyaDMcH3OjkhKooNmHOZm0CXSgVkt6S74g7Nwkw873V24E4fd3bH+t3iBXO5 ElMS48VV6ylGdAB7jia3I8EdiMVV/6RXkjdgdrT0czrFauCvSfnr1RAKzJGzfj6SvmkWTd XT+5uhag4GZgYmFJOKxQYRme1R3cBzHzS9JojIdM1/0toPsxjW+mgVMnFTZqYorVxFFr/F tyaXppIALG/o3OuWmvDgqGXz5Ky5BnM/rScW9LQrQscEKCuOAUnSFGH7MwBgyM6iUgWzg0 G9wv7vLjJVHFwN4at6sXdAq473m6s/PnKhjQfVn//a7woc/XlYrV8y1Qc3XPVA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1620224733; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=u4r+5h9dIwx3NDbRWJxzTdcNUDGP512lxNbfeV9y8HOHVmEjh0lf9HR/q0bnICbhzzeJZK kMxIJVLaJpqfK3Jf91NTNyQDUaUNeW7C2dm0AK42kLYWqWhTjBaGNT0qSBY38tnhFIvgA7 2QXDR8Wm6EI9WYfw2j6CymXCwEOTb3xjNRFk1QZLH9mjQaYaCPbPt2BzfzyT8gqFxfnUBq 8ByY8gx69p9kJSaGhpeoGS4C9JFaTl6pePns4bMI51fM7Mwv2FFbPS9PGo7VAmemI92y52 MBOfA5NRjAgELLVw4thP0n3xfo9Xikdv90raAw2n07QKL1NuacGt1sN08Goa3A== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.46 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 238839393 X-Spam-Score: -2.46 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: nWUpczXexADM Hello, Andr=C3=A1s Simonyi writes: > this is just to indicate that I've started to look into the > wip-cite-new branch with an eye on updating citeproc-org to use the > new API -- everything seems to be working perfectly, thanks again for > this, Nicholas! One issue I also noticed is the separation of citation > style and bibliography style, which does not exist in CSL. > Accordingly, it would be nice to have ways of specifying a single > style for both of them (both in the Org syntax and in the Liisp API), > if this is not possible already. I don't think this is necessary.=20 My (is it mine actually? I can't tell with all the discussions going on) choice of "style" name for citations and bibliography may be unfortunate. Actually citations/bibliography styles do not have to match a known style in CSL. More precisely, the bibliography style is probably close to what is expected by CSL, but I see citations styles more as internal variants. For example, one processor could implement an "draft" citation style where the citation is in the document, but it isn't even processed during export. So I think the single style you're talking about is really the bibliography style. Does that make sense? Regards, --=20 Nicolas Goaziou