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Something worth pointing out in case you were not aware of it is that the worg pages are defined with alternative stylesheets. Unfortunately, alternative stylesheet support is not well supported by browsers. However, firefox is one that does support them and as you are a firefox users, you may be in luck. >From the 'view' menu, you can select the "Page style" option, which will let you select from 1 of three provided styles - default, zenburn and classic. In your case, you will likely find the classic style easier to work with as the fonts can be scaled without some content obscuring other (it doens't use the Z index to keep things 'on top'). Note that I am working on improving the look of worg and all of this will likely change. However, it turns out it isn't as simple as a few patches. There is quite a bit of work required to get things 'up to spec', especially with respect to accessibility and responsiveness for multiple screen sizes.