* No-description <<target>> links
@ 2023-10-21 11:22 Rudolf Adamkovič
2023-10-22 8:28 ` Ihor Radchenko
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From: Rudolf Adamkovič @ 2023-10-21 11:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hello there!
Consider the sentence
"This is a [[link]]."
in a document with a "<<link>>" target.
Org exports the sentence to HTML as
"This is a No description for this link."
and to PDF as
"This is a ."
How about we export it as
"This is a link."
where the word "link" is the actual link?
WDYT?
Rudy
--
"Simplicity is complexity resolved."
-- Constantin Brâncuși, 1876-1957
Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com> [he/him]
Studenohorská 25
84103 Bratislava
Slovakia
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* Re: No-description <<target>> links
2023-10-21 11:22 No-description <<target>> links Rudolf Adamkovič
@ 2023-10-22 8:28 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-22 21:01 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
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From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2023-10-22 8:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rudolf Adamkovič; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com> writes:
> Consider the sentence
>
> "This is a [[link]]."
>
> in a document with a "<<link>>" target.
>
> Org exports the sentence to HTML as
>
> "This is a No description for this link."
>
> and to PDF as
>
> "This is a ."
Confirmed.
> How about we export it as
>
> "This is a link."
>
> where the word "link" is the actual link?
>
> WDYT?
I think that we may need to introduce a customization for default link
description. Some backends hard-code the default description to
something non-trivial and some just use arbitrary fallback like ???
(ox-ascii), "No description" (ox-html), or "" (ox-latex).
--
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92>
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* Re: No-description <<target>> links
2023-10-22 8:28 ` Ihor Radchenko
@ 2023-10-22 21:01 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2023-10-23 8:15 ` Ihor Radchenko
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Rudolf Adamkovič @ 2023-10-22 21:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ihor Radchenko; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> writes:
> I think that we may need to introduce a customization for default link
> description. Some backends hard-code the default description to
> something non-trivial and some just use arbitrary fallback like ???
> (ox-ascii), "No description" (ox-html), or "" (ox-latex).
I wonder, why not export [[link]] to <<link>> as "link" by default, if
no description is given, as is the case with URLs, Elisp, and the like?
And if that is not desirable, would the new customization allow for
doing that?
I am asking the second question because I am still hoping to solve my
problem with the impracticality of [[Literal link][literal link]]s in
densely linked text, as explained in my other thread. If Org could
export [[link]] to <<link>> as "link", and offered a STARTUP for literal
links, then that would fix my problem for good.
Thank you!
Rudy
--
"Simplicity is complexity resolved."
-- Constantin Brâncuși, 1876-1957
Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com> [he/him]
Studenohorská 25
84103 Bratislava
Slovakia
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* Re: No-description <<target>> links
2023-10-22 21:01 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
@ 2023-10-23 8:15 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-24 8:15 ` Max Nikulin
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2023-10-23 8:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rudolf Adamkovič; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com> writes:
> Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> writes:
>
>> I think that we may need to introduce a customization for default link
>> description. Some backends hard-code the default description to
>> something non-trivial and some just use arbitrary fallback like ???
>> (ox-ascii), "No description" (ox-html), or "" (ox-latex).
>
> I wonder, why not export [[link]] to <<link>> as "link" by default, if
> no description is given, as is the case with URLs, Elisp, and the
> like?
Yes, something like that.
The main problem is how to properly design
this - the current approach is that individual backends decide. And we
have no control over third-party backends...
--
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
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* Re: No-description <<target>> links
2023-10-23 8:15 ` Ihor Radchenko
@ 2023-10-24 8:15 ` Max Nikulin
2023-10-24 9:34 ` Ihor Radchenko
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Max Nikulin @ 2023-10-24 8:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
On 23/10/2023 15:15, Ihor Radchenko wrote:
>> I wonder, why not export [[link]] to <<link>> as "link" by default, if
>> no description is given, as is the case with URLs, Elisp, and the
>> like?
> Yes, something like that.
>
> The main problem is how to properly design
> this - the current approach is that individual backends decide. And we
> have no control over third-party backends...
If it were possible to customize fuzzy links through
`org-link-parameters' then Rudolf would be able to easily try if
proposed changes are feasible and to debug them in real life cases
before adding them to Org code.
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* Re: No-description <<target>> links
2023-10-24 8:15 ` Max Nikulin
@ 2023-10-24 9:34 ` Ihor Radchenko
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2023-10-24 9:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Max Nikulin; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> writes:
>> The main problem is how to properly design
>> this - the current approach is that individual backends decide. And we
>> have no control over third-party backends...
>
> If it were possible to customize fuzzy links through
> `org-link-parameters' then Rudolf would be able to easily try if
> proposed changes are feasible and to debug them in real life cases
> before adding them to Org code.
I am afraid that supporting `org-link-parameters' for built-in link
types is much harder to implement compared to addressing the <<target>>
description problem.
--
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92>
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