From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Rick Lupton <mail@ricklupton.name>
Cc: "Y. E." <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] org-id: allow using parent's existing id in links to headlines
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2023 12:27:25 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87msu7r902.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c98a38b0-6dea-4b5c-b00f-a39ea922537f@app.fastmail.com>
"Rick Lupton" <mail@ricklupton.name> writes:
> Please find attached updated patch which I think addresses all the points discussed. Let me know if you see any further changes needed.
Thanks!
I played around with the patch a bit and found a couple of rough edges:
1. When I try to open a link to non-existing search target, like
<id:some-id::non-existing-target>, I get a query to create a new
heading. If I reply "yes", a new heading is created. However, the
heading is created at the end of the file and is always level 1,
regardless of the "some-id" parent context.
It would make more sense to create a new heading at the end of the
id:some-id subtree.
2. Consider the following setting:
(setq org-id-link-consider-parent-id t)
(setq org-id-link-to-org-use-id 'create-if-interactive-and-no-custom-id)
Then, create the following Org file
* Sub
* Parent here
** This is test
:PROPERTIES:
:ID: fe40252e-0527-44c1-a990-12498991f167
:END:
*** Sub <point here>
:PROPERTIES:
:CUSTOM_ID: subid
:END:
When you M-x org-store-link, the stored link has ::*Sub instead of
the expected ::#subid
3. Consider
(setq org-id-link-consider-parent-id t)
(setq org-id-link-to-org-use-id t)
Then, create a new empty Org file
M-x org-store-link with create a top-level properties drawer with ID
and store the link. However, that link will not be a simple ID link,
but also have ::PROPERTIES search string, which is not expected.
More inline comments below.
> + #+vindex: org-id-link-consider-parent-id
> + When ~org-id-link-consider-parent-id~ is ~t~, parent =ID= properties
> + are considered. This allows linking to specific targets, named
> + blocks, or headlines (which may not have a globally unique =ID=
> + themselves) within the context of a parent headline or file which
> + does.
It would be nice to add an example, similar to what you did in the docstring.
> -(defun org-man-store-link ()
> +(defun org-man-store-link (&optional _interactive?)
> "Store a link to a man page."
> (when (memq major-mode '(Man-mode woman-mode))
> ;; This is a man page, we do make this link.
> @@ -21312,13 +21324,15 @@ A review of =ol-man.el=:
Please, update the actual built-in :store functions in lisp/ol-*.el to
handle the new optional argument as well.
> +**** =org-link= store functions are passed an ~interactive?~ argument
> +
> +The ~:store:~ functions set for link types using
> +~org-link-set-parameters~ are now passed an ~interactive?~ argument,
> +indicating whether ~org-store-link~ was called interactively.
Please also explain that the existing functions are not broken.
> +*** ~org-id-store-link~ now adds search strings for precise link targets
> +
> +This new behaviour can be disabled generally by setting
> +~org-id-link-use-context~ to ~nil~, or when storing a specific link by
> +passing a prefix argument to ~org-store-link~.
universal argument.
There are several possible prefix arguments in `org-store-link', but
only C-u (universal argument) will give the described effect.
Also, won't the behavior be _toggled_ by the universal argument?
> +When using this feature, IDs should not include =::=, which is used in
> +links to indicate the start of the search string. For backwards
> +compability, existing IDs including =::= will still be matched (but
> +cannot be used together with precise link targets).
Please add an org-lint checker that warns about such IDs and mention
this checker in the above.
Also, this paragraph belongs to "Breaking changes", not "new and changed
options".
> +*** New option ~org-id-link-consider-parent-id~ to allow =id:= links to parent headlines
> +
> +For =id:= links, when this option is enabled, ~org-store-link~ will
> +look for ids from parent/ancestor headlines, if the current headline
> +does not have an id.
> +
> +Combined with the new ability for =id:= links to use search strings
> +for precise link targets (when =org-id-link-use-context= is =t=, which
> +is the default), this allows linking to specific headlines without
> +requiring every headline to have an id property, as long as the
> +headline is unique within a subtree that does have an id property.
> +
> +By giving files top-level id properties, links to headlines in the
> +file can be made more robust by using the file id instead of the file
> +path.
Please, provide an example here as well.
> +(defun org-link--try-link-store-functions (interactive?)
> + "Try storing external links, prompting if more than one is possible.
> +
> +Each function returned by `org-store-link-functions' is called in
> +turn. If multiple functions return non-nil, prompt for which
> +link should be stored.
> +
> +Return t when a link has been stored in `org-link-store-props'."
Please document INTERACTIVE? argument in the docstring.
> + (let ((results-alist nil))
> + (dolist (f (org-store-link-functions))
> + (when (condition-case nil
> + (funcall f interactive?)
> + ;; XXX: The store function used (< Org 9.7) to accept no
> + ;; arguments; provide backward compatibility support for
> + ;; them.
Use FIXME, not XXX. (I have no idea why it is XXX in the existing code).
> +(defun org-link-precise-link-target (&optional relative-to)
> + "Determine search string and description for storing a link.
> +
> +If a search string is found, return cons cell (SEARCH-STRING
> +. DESC). Otherwise, return nil.
> +
> +If there is an active region, the contents is used (see
> +`org-link--context-from-region').
It is not clear from this sentence whether the contents is used for
SEARCH-STRING of DESC.
> +In org-mode buffers, if point is at a named element (e.g. a
> +source block), the name is used. If within a heading, the current
> +heading is used.
Please use double space between sentences.
> +Optional argument RELATIVE-TO specifies the buffer position where
> +the search will start from. If the search target that would be
> +returned is already at this location, return nil to avoid
> +unnecessary search strings (for example, when using search
> +strings to find targets within org-id links)."
It is not clear what will happen if RELATIVE-TO is before/after point.
> - (let (link cpltxt desc search custom-id agenda-link) ;; description
> + (let ((org-link-context-for-files (org-xor org-link-context-for-files
> + (equal arg '(4))))
> + link cpltxt desc search custom-id agenda-link) ;; description
> (cond
> ;; Store a link using an external link type, if any function is
> - ;; available. If more than one can generate a link from current
> - ;; location, ask which one to use.
> + ;; available. If more than one can generate a link from
> + ;; current location, ask which one to use. Negate
> + ;; `org-context-in-file-links' when given a single prefix arg.
The part of the comment about negation, should probably be moved near
the let binding of `org-link-context-for-files'.
> +For example, given this org file:
> +
> +* Parent
> +:PROPERTIES:
> +:ID: abc
> +:END:
> +** Child 1
> +** Child 2
> +
> +With `org-id-link-consider-parent-id' set to t, storing a link
> +with point at \"Child 1\" will produce a link \"id:abc\" to
> +\"Parent\".
This is actually confusing. May we only consider parent when
`org-id-link-use-context' is enabled?
> -(defun org-id-get (&optional epom create prefix)
> +(defun org-id-get (&optional epom create prefix inherit)
> "Get the ID property of the entry at EPOM.
> EPOM is an element, marker, or buffer position.
> If EPOM is nil, refer to the entry at point.
> If the entry does not have an ID, the function returns nil.
> +If INHERIT is non-nil, parents' IDs are also considered.
> However, when CREATE is non-nil, create an ID if none is present already.
> PREFIX will be passed through to `org-id-new'.
> In any case, the ID of the entry is returned."
What about both CREATE and INHERIT being non-nil?
> +;;;###autoload
> +(defun org-id-store-link-maybe (&optional interactive?)
> + "Store a link to the current entry using its ID if enabled.
> +
> +The value of `org-id-link-to-org-use-id' determines whether an ID
> +link should be stored, using `org-id-store-link'.
> +
> +Assume the function is called interactively if INTERACTIVE? is
> +non-nil."
> + (interactive "p")
Do we really need to make it interactive?
--
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-12-18 12:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-07-24 11:40 [PATCH] org-id: allow using parent's existing id in links to headlines Rick Lupton
2023-07-25 7:43 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-25 15:16 ` Max Nikulin
2023-07-26 8:10 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-27 0:16 ` Samuel Wales
2023-07-27 7:42 ` IDs below headline level (for paragraphs, lists, etc) (was: [PATCH] org-id: allow using parent's existing id in links to headlines) Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-28 20:00 ` Rick Lupton
2023-07-28 19:56 ` [PATCH] org-id: allow using parent's existing id in links to headlines Rick Lupton
2023-07-29 8:33 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-09 20:56 ` Rick Lupton
2023-11-10 10:03 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-19 15:21 ` Rick Lupton
2023-12-04 13:23 ` Rick Lupton
2023-12-10 13:35 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-14 20:42 ` Rick Lupton
2023-12-15 12:55 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-15 16:16 ` Rick Lupton
2023-12-16 14:20 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-17 19:07 ` [PATCH v2] " Rick Lupton
2023-12-18 12:27 ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2024-01-02 16:13 ` Rick Lupton
2024-01-03 14:17 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-28 22:47 ` Rick Lupton
2024-01-29 0:20 ` Samuel Wales
2024-01-29 13:06 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-30 0:03 ` Samuel Wales
2024-02-03 15:08 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-13 3:23 ` Samuel Wales
2024-01-29 13:00 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-31 18:11 ` Rick Lupton
2024-02-01 12:13 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-02-01 16:37 ` Rick Lupton
2024-02-03 13:10 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-02-08 8:24 ` [PATCH] lisp/ol.el: Improve docstring Rick Lupton
2024-02-08 14:52 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-02-08 8:46 ` [PATCH v2] org-id: allow using parent's existing id in links to headlines Rick Lupton
2024-02-08 13:02 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-02-08 22:30 ` Rick Lupton
2024-02-09 12:09 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-02-09 12:47 ` Rick Lupton
2024-02-09 12:57 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-02-24 10:48 ` Bastien Guerry
2024-02-24 13:02 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-02-24 15:57 ` Rick Lupton
2024-03-05 14:05 ` Stefan
2024-03-05 14:51 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-04 23:01 ` [PATCH] " Rick Lupton
2023-11-05 12:31 ` Ihor Radchenko
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