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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: "Rudolf Adamkovič" <rudolf@adamkovic.org>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: The less ambiguous math delimiters in tables
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2024 13:35:00 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87msgh5jwb.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2wmflz2co.fsf@adamkovic.org>

Rudolf Adamkovič <rudolf@adamkovic.org> writes:

>> In a theoretical case if we agree to what you are suggesting, it should
>> not be just for tables. There are similar cases with other markup, like
>>
>>  *foo =* *= bar*
>
> Agreed!  We could introduce a kind of escaping that means "this MUST be
> interpreted as markup" and/or "this MUST NOT be interpreted as markup",
> but that could lead to documents that are hard to read for humans.  Or,
> we could add structured markup that is unambiguous and takes precedence
> over all unstructured markup.  For example:
>
>   emphasis{...}
>   verbatim{...}
>   table[...]{...}
>   src[...]{...}
>
> The last one already exists. :)

See https://list.orgmode.org/875xwqj4tl.fsf@localhost/

> That said, as for my original problem, I still think that \(...\) should
> take precedence over |.  Even if we added structured latex{...} markup,
> it should not be necessary in my case, as Org should not severely break
> basic LaTeX within tables in the first place.

Sorry, but no.
Basically, what you propose is a rabbit hole that will introduce new
parser bugs and, worse, new systematic problems with syntax.

For context, I proposed similar ideas to Nicolas, the author of
org-element parser, in the past, and he rejected them firmly.

FYI, my approach to solve this problem is different - I want
(eventually) to allow some kind of alternative syntax for tables that
will allow bypassing similar situations. For example, we can allow
multiple || to serve as delimiters:

|  this |  is |  a     |  normal       |  table  |  row |
|| here || we || allow || verbatim "|" || inside ||    ||

-- 
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode maintainer,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
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  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-27 13:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-24  9:20 The less ambiguous math delimiters in tables Rudolf Adamkovič
2024-12-24  9:25 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-25 17:56   ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2024-12-25 18:05     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-25 20:14       ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2024-12-26  9:17         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-26 13:31           ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2024-12-26 13:51             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-27 13:23               ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2024-12-27 13:35                 ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2024-12-27 17:17     ` Leo Butler
2024-12-28 16:39     ` Max Nikulin
2024-12-24  9:50 ` Rudolf Adamkovič

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