From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Sven Bretfeld Subject: Documentation request Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 18:14:40 +0100 Message-ID: <87lk6lhh4v.fsf@kamaloka.dhatu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0225229758==" Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JGHHR-0007AJ-CP for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:14:53 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JGHHQ-00079k-9b for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:14:52 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JGHHQ-00079e-45 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:14:52 -0500 Received: from viefep18-int.chello.at ([213.46.255.22] helo=viefep23-int.chello.at) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JGHHP-0006IB-Le for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:14:52 -0500 Received: from kamaloka.dhatu ([80.219.162.86]) by viefep23-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20080119171449.GALC10413.viefep23-int.chello.at@kamaloka.dhatu> for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2008 18:14:49 +0100 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-org --===============0225229758== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" --=-=-= Hello to all Org mode is powerful. This well-known, almost trivial, statement contains a problematic dimension that is so far not solved in neither the documentation nor in the various howtos all over the web: How do newbies learn to make optimal use of all it's power? I read quite a few descriptions of how to use org mode for GTD, day-planning, even LaTeX-writing. But when reading this list I have the impression that many members use org mode in a much more creative way than I can imagine from reading what is to be found on the web. I'm sure that I don't use the possibilities of org mode in an optimal way, and that my concept of ordering data and using features is not the best suitable for me. The major problem is as follows: - Even if one knows what features are available in org-mode, it's hard to imagine what fine things you can actually do with them and how they could be used to complement each other in order to build up a meaningful overall concept. In other words, it's a problem of imagination. This might be *my* problem, but yet I believe that many users will have this same difficulty, especially the new ones. John Wiegley's and Charles Cave's howtos are fine and most instructive in this respect, but I have different needs. I need more of these suggestions in order to pick out ideas for my own style. On the org mode homepage there are several descriptions of setups (Lisp code), but AFAIK only these two explanations of concepts. We had many postings that gave a glimpse on some concepts, but this is piecemeal. What I would really like to see -- and now I come to my suggestion -- are some snapshots of org files by other users. What features are they using and what for? What is the underlying concept of their organization structure? What I need is the: "Aah, you are doing it that way ..." How do you think about making a space on the tutorial page of the org mode homepage where people can upload example org-files, maybe together with a short description of their concepts? Of course these files have to be prepared in order to disguise their personal tasks and dates, which are (of course) of no concern to the public, but they should have to be recognizable as snapshots of a work-in-progress ("project A", "project B" isn't very instructive, I think. "Writing chapter 4 of my dissertation thesis" would be much more informative). I think this could be a valuable source for ideas how to optimize the use of org mode, and it could give newbies (as well as experts) a major clue to orientate themselves in the world of org mode. I hope this request is not too silly. Of course, I would be willing to become the first person to submit a file, although I believe that there is not much to be learned from it. Thanks for considering my request (and for reading this long message) Sven --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHkjAGV5JTHLAduAYRAq6KAKDMGsOiBfzd/LF4KhvVJgEZ89Km4wCguYgL HKHDy5/WgeIkyE9wOODEb2I= =jgqx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- --===============0225229758== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. 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