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From: Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: are super-hidden technical blocks required?
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 00:20:56 +0200
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Hello,

> What about a HIDDEN_PROPERTIES drawer that, when folded, folds
> completely (so that its title line is hidden too), and have a key to
> reveal such drawers (the way M-tab opens archived entries)?

This is begging for problems.  At some point, an user will start to
notice weird behaviour he cannot explain from, let's say, the exporter,
because he will have completely forgotten about one totally hidden
drawer setting export options.

I don't think anything should be made totally invisible. There should
always be visual clues for such things.

PROPERTIES drawer is as hidden as it can decently be. Since its contents
are mostly for Org internals, the average user is, usually, not supposed
to expand it. If you often need to have a look at some properties, you
may use column view instead.


Regards,

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Nicolas Goaziou