Old style backquotes in ox-texinfo.el

Old style backquotes in ox-texinfo.el

[James Harkins]

Incidentally, while I was trying different versions last night (for the 
LaTeX starred-figure issue), I saw the following warnings during "make":

In toplevel form:
ox-texinfo.el:1683:1:Warning: !! The file uses old-style backquotes !!
This functionality has been obsolete for more than 10 years already
and will be removed soon.  See (elisp)Backquote in the manual.
ox-texinfo.el:1717:1:Warning: !! The file uses old-style backquotes !!
This functionality has been obsolete for more than 10 years already
and will be removed soon.  See (elisp)Backquote in the manual.

I don't see that this is logged at http://orgmode.org/worg/org-issues.html 
-- while it's not a critical issue obviously, it seems untidy and I'm at 
pains to imagine a good reason to retain syntax that has been deprecated 
for such a long time.

hjh

Re: Old style backquotes in ox-texinfo.el

[Thomas S. Dye]

James Harkins <jamshark70@gmail.com> writes:

> Incidentally, while I was trying different versions last night (for
> the LaTeX starred-figure issue), I saw the following warnings during
> "make":
>
> In toplevel form:
> ox-texinfo.el:1683:1:Warning: !! The file uses old-style backquotes !!
> This functionality has been obsolete for more than 10 years already
> and will be removed soon.  See (elisp)Backquote in the manual.
> ox-texinfo.el:1717:1:Warning: !! The file uses old-style backquotes !!
> This functionality has been obsolete for more than 10 years already
> and will be removed soon.  See (elisp)Backquote in the manual.

I can't reproduce this.

The lines that throw warnings for you are both docstrings with the
version of ox-texinfo.el I just pulled from git-master.

hth,
Tom
 
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Re: Old style backquotes in ox-texinfo.el

[James Harkins]

On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:52 PM, Thomas S. Dye <tsd@tsdye.com> wrote:
> James Harkins <jamshark70@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> If this has been fixed in master, then I'm content to leave it at that.
>
> I don't know about this.  My guess is that your Org-mode installation is
> messed up somehow.

I'm unclear how. I didn't see this message in Emacs. It's during
"make." That has to do only with the git repository, nothing about
installation.

$ pwd
/home/dlm/share/org-mode.git

$  git status
# On branch hjh8.2
# Untracked files:
#   (use "git add <file>..." to include in what will be committed)
#
#    lisp/org-mobile.el.orig
#    lisp/ox-latex.el.orig
#    minimal-org.el
nothing added to commit but untracked files present (use "git add" to track)

$ git diff lisp/ox-texinfo.el
--> nothing

$ make
... blah blah...
Compiling /home/dlm/share/org-mode.git/lisp/ox-texinfo.el...

In toplevel form:
ox-texinfo.el:1683:1:Warning: !! The file uses old-style backquotes !!
This functionality has been obsolete for more than 10 years already
and will be removed soon.  See (elisp)Backquote in the manual.
ox-texinfo.el:1717:1:Warning: !! The file uses old-style backquotes !!
This functionality has been obsolete for more than 10 years already
and will be removed soon.  See (elisp)Backquote in the manual.
Wrote /home/dlm/share/org-mode.git/lisp/ox-texinfo.elc
Compiling /home/dlm/share/org-mode.git/lisp/ox.el...
Wrote /home/dlm/share/org-mode.git/lisp/ox.elc
Done (Total of 103 files compiled, 3 skipped)
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/dlm/share/org-mode.git/lisp'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dlm/share/org-mode.git/lisp'
make -C doc info
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/dlm/share/org-mode.git/doc'
org-version: 8.2 (release_8.2-2-g18c7c4)
makeinfo --no-split org.texi -o org
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dlm/share/org-mode.git/doc'

hjh

Re: Old style backquotes in ox-texinfo.el

[Thomas S. Dye]

James Harkins <jamshark70@gmail.com> writes:

>>> If this has been fixed in master, then I'm content to leave it at that.
>>
>> I don't know about this.  My guess is that your Org-mode installation is
>> messed up somehow.
>
> I'm unclear how. I didn't see this message in Emacs. It's during
> "make." That has to do only with the git repository, nothing about
> installation.

I see in the git log for ox-texinfo that Carsten got rid of old
style backquoting on September 19th.  Yours must be older than that?

All the best,
Tom
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Re: Old style backquotes in ox-texinfo.el

[James Harkins]

On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Thomas S. Dye <tsd@tsdye.com> wrote:
> I see in the git log for ox-texinfo that Carsten got rid of old
> style backquoting on September 19th.  Yours must be older than that?

Well, as I said before, I'm using the stable release tag for 8.2. I do
not habitually use the latest from master. Org is one area where I
don't want to expose myself to bleeding-edge bugs.

It seems that the commit for ox-texinfo.el did not make it into
release_8.2. So, if this is no longer an issue in master, then I'm
satisfied with that.

So, I think nothing more to discuss about this.

hjh

Re: Old style backquotes in ox-texinfo.el

[James Harkins]

On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 10:06:03 +0100, Achim Gratz wrote:
> James Harkins writes:
> > $  git status
> > # On branch hjh8.2
> 
> You are on your own branch, with unknown modifications.

> The current ox-texinfo doesn't have any backquotes, let alone old-style
> ones anywhere near those lines.  How about you'd compare your branch to
> the release tag and see what changes you've made:

For the record: I just upgraded to release_8.2.4 and the warnings in 
ox-texinfo.el are gone.

The only reason I was on my own branch in case I decide to tinker with 
something. I don't want to mess up any branches in my local git repository. 
So, as a matter of course, when I upgrade, I check out the release tag and 
then do "git checkout -b hjh8.2.4" for example.

I had never touched ox-texinfo.el, so I knew that "unknown changes" were 
not going to affect the issue. You didn't know that -- perfectly okay to 
cover all the bases.

Anyway, I consider this thread to be closed.

hjh

Re: Old style backquotes in ox-texinfo.el

[Achim Gratz]

James Harkins writes:
> $  git status
> # On branch hjh8.2

You are on your own branch, with unknown modifications.

> In toplevel form:
> ox-texinfo.el:1683:1:Warning: !! The file uses old-style backquotes !!
> This functionality has been obsolete for more than 10 years already
> and will be removed soon.  See (elisp)Backquote in the manual.

The current ox-texinfo doesn't have any backquotes, let alone old-style
ones anywhere near those lines.  How about you'd compare your branch to
the release tag and see what changes you've made:

git diff release_8.2.4


Regards,
Achim.
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