From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: =?utf-8?Q?Fran=C3=A7ois_Pinard?= Subject: Re: gnus: link annoyance Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2014 00:14:11 -0500 Message-ID: <87lhys2x24.fsf@iro.umontreal.ca> References: <87zjn9w79w.fsf@iro.umontreal.ca> <87k3edcbe5.fsf@alphaville.bos.redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34165) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0OzZ-0002mC-CV for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 00:14:22 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0OzU-0006AQ-Jn for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 00:14:17 -0500 Received: from 206-248-137-202.dsl.teksavvy.com ([206.248.137.202]:59015 helo=mercure.progiciels-bpi.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0OzU-0006AL-F4 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 00:14:12 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87k3edcbe5.fsf@alphaville.bos.redhat.com> (Nick Dokos's message of "Mon, 06 Jan 2014 11:39:46 -0500") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Nick Dokos writes: > Fran=C3=A7ois Pinard writes: >> Whenever I visit a "gnus:" type link from Org, it has the side effect of >> "reading" the article in Gnus parlance, forcing me to "unread" it each >> time afterwards. > it's certainly not lost: the link continues to work, even if it points > to a read article; and visiting the group with C-u in gnus > also allows you to see previously read articles. Hi, Nick. Of course, you are fully right in that the article is still there, and likely unexpired. But in practice, from my viewpoint, it is not there anymore: I do not usually enter groups by C-u SPC. While possible, it is unusual that I want to find and read again an article which I once decided has been read for good. If I search all mailgroups for a certain string, and randomly check hits, I do not want these articles I check to later have disappeared from sight in practice. I was not really in the process of reading articles, but merely checking on them. It would not make sense that Org removes lines that I visit after a grep, and when grepping through many files, would they be Org, non-Org, mailboxes or articles in mailgroups, I am in a mode where I do not expect any kind of altering behaviour. Fran=C3=A7ois