From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id yJfeLxRcgGCAxQAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 19:08:36 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id IKqOKxRcgGCmAwAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 17:08:36 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 433891B0CF for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 19:08:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:44364 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lZGL4-0001hJ-FU for larch@yhetil.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 13:08:34 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43416) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lZGKU-0001hC-Og for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 13:07:58 -0400 Received: from relay12.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.232]:50789) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lZGKS-0004zl-G3 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 13:07:58 -0400 Received: from localhost (40-67.ipv4.commingeshautdebit.fr [185.131.40.67]) (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay12.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 93F47200007; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 17:07:53 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou To: Matt Price Subject: Re: wip-cite status question and feedback References: <87mu5xpm4x.fsf@gnu.org> <87img81ad7.fsf@gnu.org> <20210324182751.GA8721@atlantis> <87czuzprmh.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <20210417191330.GA17788@atlantis> <87k0ozefdw.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Matt Price , Org Mode Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 19:07:52 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Matt Price's message of "Tue, 20 Apr 2021 09:32:23 -0400") Message-ID: <87lf9b8t1z.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.178.232; envelope-from=mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr; helo=relay12.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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I'm not in a > position to contribute code tight now but really do want to have this > feature as soon as possible. It's going to improve my students' lives qui= te > a bit. Thank you for your interest. I have completed step 2, barring some documentation to write. At this point, there is a defined citation syntax (step 1), and a complete API to operate on citations (step 2). I will rebase "wip-cite-new" branch and post a wrap-up soon. Once done, the next step is to write a limited default back-end, and, more importantly, to convert existing citation systems to use the API, and extend it if required. I will take care about the default back-end (hopefully before the end of the week but don't hold your breath), but can only provide guidance for the conversion part. I hope there is enough motivated people to give it a try. So, while participation is mostly code-related at this point, you can certainly comment about the usability of the API from a user POV. Of course, at this point, we need something that works well enough, not necessarily something feature complete. Also, if all goes well, there will be a need for a complete documentation in the manual=E2=80=A6 Hear, hear. Regards, --=20 Nicolas Goaziou