From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id 8I4QG2AZpWAdMwEAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 19 May 2021 15:57:52 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id uGDQFmAZpWCSPwAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 19 May 2021 13:57:52 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C67EA832E for ; Wed, 19 May 2021 15:57:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:41812 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ljMhr-0002U7-0T for larch@yhetil.org; Wed, 19 May 2021 09:57:51 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45716) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ljMVc-0005H2-0H for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 19 May 2021 09:45:13 -0400 Received: from relay11.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.231]:46233) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ljMVX-00069B-Dz for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 19 May 2021 09:45:11 -0400 Received: (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay11.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7C11910000A; Wed, 19 May 2021 13:44:59 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou To: Denis Maier Subject: Re: [wip-cite-new] Initial implementation of `biblatex' citation processor References: <87bl985b3h.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <10eb58b2-5da3-b768-cf56-87aa447346d7@mailbox.org> <5a23225d-118a-d08e-a1d7-f9fe3791c1bf@mailbox.org> Mail-Followup-To: Denis Maier , Bruce D'Arcus , org-mode-email Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 15:44:57 +0200 In-Reply-To: <5a23225d-118a-d08e-a1d7-f9fe3791c1bf@mailbox.org> (Denis Maier's message of "Wed, 19 May 2021 14:33:54 +0200") Message-ID: <87lf8a4z3a.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.178.231; envelope-from=mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr; helo=relay11.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: org-mode-email , Bruce D'Arcus Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1621432671; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=fusda9kBVHNvU+0dnsmD+irAzMDg3wbiZ6a76yYSrUw=; b=g6LTBo9HZclW1GHS1zRjUqByPvT2lZS3JIk6lMcgiL26NVuYNIWgyiMZQFbS0LTbFsQZQF kCvKLW+2dDJ54lYYgSuCvyy2vQZQr7A1lco3ZiIkx/8ceEbA87y7e7fCtg9qlGAWSJuVmp Llu5CwKK1np10VSgFLy8finj+xu5nShLGosT/7KKVOxUWbGOCExxvBL/hQ+D3l/ICeYyML duNXyx1MJrOcU+SS6LnMgBkv1Gg6o5Fz4gaxM4QAouro6IRipHrQ/nT56ujKG4QlcYcn4C UDYJ31Wi3XGk/5RcP+LacF7ONRDErTwKm9h+BJxjwFLQCMw/vT+7xsFZMH6cXw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1621432671; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=mkY5OGAFL1ayo8H4HfM+TsMKcCErAhirXbqFYzA4WZeIXGIyuVTixykrXwqFNhl6V2Ab2s wZNYZHicjm1T7GRU91hwtHZiqx8G8LyDReYmTndXVuOVoBTn/04UsvoIbkaEJpnyAQvQvl 8NTAPRwsZMzkdbkzfj1sqjUh0izR/uOcfj5/diA/q/+sOZH4ERWfGzcvTFPcRLoiucB6jV vwuaXEEAK3lkUuHu3OvfeF2+HQ9aXv25uOEOISMI7O2DEcFePjbCyaAtTgyKSmGxqNIz8m M0LVEoneYuiOAzM9MsAhAbEOC2dgRHRHfoX3gTVnv1C/RqykExa/B11MA9OMng== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.44 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: C67EA832E X-Spam-Score: -2.44 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: s5EPCEjLwusp Hello, Denis Maier writes: > \cite is the most basic cite command: > > In a author-year style: > \cite => Doe 2020 > \textcite => Doe (2020) > \parencite => (Doe 2020) > \autocite => \parencite > > In note-based styles (e.g verbose): > > \cite => Doe, Title > \footcite => [fn:: Doe, Title] > \parencite => (Doe, Title) > \autocite => \footcite > >> >>> Also, footcite should be there. >> Footcite is already there under the "note"/"fn" style. > > Good! (I was just a bit confused because biblatex has \footcite and > \notecite. Here is the summary: | Style | Variant | Command | |-----------+-----------+--------------| | author | caps | Citeauthor* | | author | full | citeauthor | | author | caps-full | Citeauthor | | author | | citeauthor | |-----------+-----------+--------------| | locators | bare | notecite | | locators | caps | Pnotecite | | locators | bare-caps | Notecite | | locators | | pnotecite | |-----------+-----------+--------------| | nocite | | nocite | |-----------+-----------+--------------| | note | bare | footcitetext | | note | | footcite | |-----------+-----------+--------------| | smart | caps | Smartcite | | smart | | smartcite | |-----------+-----------+--------------| | super | | supercite | |-----------+-----------+--------------| | text | caps | Textcite | | text | | textcite | |-----------+-----------+--------------| | title | full | citetitle* | | title | | citetitle | |-----------+-----------+--------------| | year | full | citeyear* | | year | | citeyear | |-----------+-----------+--------------| | (default) | caps | Autocite | | (default) | | autocite | "bare" variant means "without parenthesis", I think. One problem is there is no "\cite", or "\parencite". I though they would make a good fit for the default style, "\cite" being the "bare" variant of "\parencite", and "\autocite" could be moved to a "auto" style. I'm not sure where to put \cite, then. Suggestions to change the table above are welcome. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou