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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1675422346; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=+AGfqk9O4SMi4HOoKEUKSmPsXSycwE8ORQIDfB6x8/c=; b=f02CzAzEMIJmb6rUGxoK/cWjp7LRGmC05q6VxMO/0aY52cNSYnWQ1yEAR9nrH22XUxpT0y OiOC7f9xu6orragC+s1uJJ2QsToKfrSJxG7VCT7mRNRGgWmbTejMxWNjYsNxqiU7pn2qha Rguw5vTpdc9wxau82A34xVZTbFiSbegSrmlNGyeG6gIotHGC3XchQuEdK0DPMbOep3kPgw qpVFL1cozkX+MdeEPkWhBLDgSa7wThh1II8/ViV2iYafnK1DQQBzxtat0jwHuXPgjypMho InsPSBuZqWXd5W9ikPt+CHBQJvwVWqk4Zt6a5UZmTgK9WR0JFOT4XWJp40AIHw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=JkzRHEEv; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1675422346; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=pe3s4WMTsbhQKUFWqQpn8Ah1uWjGHIKYa3bdyCBP0kkg5kKp+ZJH4h/UVycG28odnW2KEn sMjx9ASfiYu4hkxqPT4J9cZcHCxuBWCfJKLJSwmCXdSzPxHtVs/CsJaIJ8ePSzLKtP3VYR pkg1kLB2vILVSfey8FO5YDL7zZ+lsU6HqbsUy+dbVZ5i66LJBM/vbzNlPidonAUZxfWBsU xleAoWx8uklyO+PVrd7Z9oTrr6v+iI3ieWJ5y6C2MQB69u7lcGGR+eWejtT86UchKhhAZb pX2u2eu7Px2+5N+p5qmG86wbUj3Is+Xe9kDPqMt/MmpKXentkbLwHK7o7A5ALw== X-Migadu-Queue-Id: C93123E152 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=JkzRHEEv; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -11.33 X-Spam-Score: -11.33 X-TUID: JP3ea1Bcwh0/ Max Nikulin writes: > On 27/12/2022 16:47, Ihor Radchenko wrote: >> Can you then try to test using Emacs 28? >> The main question if whether this has been fixed in newer Emacs releases >> or it is also something to do with OS environment. > > I see quite the same issue with Emacs-28.2 in Debian testing. Compile > buffer displays a bit more warnings and usual `org-assert-version' > warnings and errors are present as well. It might have another level of > complexity due to .eln files. I am unsure what happens with calls to > undefined macros. I asked people around to test using Debian, and we do have a confirmation that Debian + Emacs 27 and Debian + Emacs 28 do trigger the error. I also installed Debian 11.6.0 on virtual machine, and I was also able to trigger the error, following the provided steps, using the Emacs 27 installed via apt-get. The problem seems to be real and appears to be some combination of Debian/Ubuntu + Emacs. Considering the popularity of Debian-based distros, may someone take a closer look on what may be going on? Since the latest Emacs release also suffers from the problem, I am afraid that the issue will be present in the coming Emacs 29 as well (I recall no related fixes in recent Emacs). -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at