From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp11.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id WBO5EpD37GOO+AAAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 16:17:36 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp11.migadu.com with LMTPS id yFucEpD37GOwEwEA9RJhRA (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 16:17:36 +0100 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D110ECB44 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 16:17:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pSJWZ-0000YJ-HD; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 10:16:47 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pSJWW-0000Sh-7P for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 10:16:45 -0500 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pSJWU-0004aC-71 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 10:16:43 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 196A92404AA for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 16:16:37 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1676474200; bh=iMfiEysc/A5emS2sLw1I/eWUfPk9tQEmYpt8sXAnouQ=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=ksE2Tgf5c3Mk/3qndcGkF0Zr0U8cl46cM/pm6ojjtuDMono9dxY0TC1Dlc8Ev9DIg Y0gluIQ64JvMRTDd2I4nXnDi1/qbmU+UQlTcREHZEbCAyadSldwwmA5YZ3sMfHV5eq 6m4fUbqkz4VcWv1atiCDaW7EYk2JmzRfJkResjLjXRt8cpsfUsBG9+VghwN7B+sRtc pMGHmoEXFpDzsNfX3T756Hgjxq2blfBjIPRJoOFUSAKdpCm8y6Gd46m2mN2WNrXCVF WVm0SC17mfj4q3wD9f0Oi0dhVcwke6bID7U8rroOVy57UZWiTyMMATPXSxvI8+NjOy Jd//BQ+SJ5ytA== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4PH1rL10bvz9rxN; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 16:16:33 +0100 (CET) From: Ihor Radchenko To: Jean Louis Cc: Max Nikulin , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda) In-Reply-To: References: <87lelce6iu.fsf@localhost> <87357i9959.fsf@localhost> <877cwse95m.fsf@localhost> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2023 15:17:11 +0000 Message-ID: <87lekz3qmg.fsf@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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I do not recall providing such example. May you point me to the message where you saw me writing -0800 @UTC? -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at