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Tue, 26 Mar 2024 15:48:41 +0100 (CET) From: Ihor Radchenko To: Adam Porter Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: [Worg] CSS improvements In-Reply-To: <00a7258c-d3ef-4a22-ae08-35c62d71cc27@alphapapa.net> References: <57934e1d-37eb-4b75-b8ed-6666dcc3848e@alphapapa.net> <87le6957ha.fsf@localhost> <14b3b7df-baeb-45b5-a530-aa11ccf09d0c@alphapapa.net> <87plvkf1p0.fsf@localhost> <00a7258c-d3ef-4a22-ae08-35c62d71cc27@alphapapa.net> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2024 14:48:48 +0000 Message-ID: <87le659hgv.fsf@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -22 X-Spam_score: -2.3 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, THIS_AD=2.099 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Spam-Score: -8.04 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 797A73B56C X-Migadu-Scanner: mx13.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -8.04 X-TUID: BAmgWsw2slYU Adam Porter writes: >>> What is the purpose of centering text if not to make it stand out? >> >> To align text. I am not sure why anything more is necessary - it >> is certainly counter-intuitive for me that "center" means something more >> than just alignment. > > Again, what is the purpose of centering text? The answer, "To align > text," is tautological. I am very confused. Of course, it is tautological. "center" container is aiming to align the text. That's why it is named "center". > Especially, on Worg, where the whole site serves as a kind of extended > user manual, the purpose of centering text is, what, if not to make it > stand out? To align text... I really do not understand why one would _anticipate_ that #+begin_center is doing anything other than center alignment. >> If you need extra highlighting, we may introduce a dedicated style and >> apply it via special block. > > Why, when we already have #+begin_center? Currently it's not even used > at all. This would not change anything that already exists; it would > make something that already exists useful. It would break expectations. It will also differ from ox-html output with the default css style `org-html-style-default': .org-center { margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; } >> Mostly because it is unexpected, as I described above. >> I'd prefer to stick closer to the semantics and just apply alignment to >> center blocks. > > *shrug* Worg has existed for years without even doing anything with > #+begin_center blocks--not even centering them. I propose that we make > it useful and serve its natural purpose, rather than adding a special > new block that most users won't even know about (having to find it in > the voluminous Worg content isn't likely to happen for most users). I do not see how, without documentation, one would expect that #+begin_center can be used for highlighting and not for text alignment. >From my point of view, it is worse than a special block - not only this ad-hoc convention is not documented; it will also break expectations about what #+begin_center does. What about: 1. Introducing a new special block for highlighting 2. Documenting it in https://orgmode.org/worg/worg-editing.html -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at