* Simple Indentation question: indentation behaviour changed some time ago.
@ 2011-03-01 21:50 Rainer Stengele
2011-03-01 23:45 ` Nicolas
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From: Rainer Stengele @ 2011-03-01 21:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hi all,
I remember once I had this
* headline
- item
TEXT
^
cursor on first "T" of "TEXT" and pressing "TAB" I got:
* headline
- item
TEXT
nowadays I get
* headline
- item
TEXT
I checked the org-*indent* variables but could not find a matching variable.
How can I configure the old behaviour?
Thanks Rainer
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* Re: Simple Indentation question: indentation behaviour changed some time ago.
2011-03-01 21:50 Simple Indentation question: indentation behaviour changed some time ago Rainer Stengele
@ 2011-03-01 23:45 ` Nicolas
2011-03-02 8:47 ` Rainer Stengele
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From: Nicolas @ 2011-03-01 23:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rainer Stengele; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hello,
Rainer Stengele <rainer.stengele@online.de> writes:
> * headline
> - item
> TEXT
> ^
>
> cursor on first "T" of "TEXT" and pressing "TAB" I got:
>
> * headline
> - item
> TEXT
>
> nowadays I get
>
> * headline
> - item
> TEXT
> I checked the org-*indent* variables but could not find a matching variable.
> How can I configure the old behaviour?
You can set `org-list-ending-method' to 'regexp, meaning that you will
need to provide two blank lines (that's configurable though, see
`org-empty-line-terminates-plain-lists' and `org-list-end-regexp') to end
a list.
Otherwise, lists are determined by indentation, so, in your example,
TEXT end the list as it is less indented than any of its items. Thus,
when pressing TAB, Org indent the line accordingly, that is as a line
belonging to the headline but not to the list.
Also note that, if TEXT isn't already typed, you can use C-j after
"item" to stay inside list and go on typing.
Regards,
--
Nicolas
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* Re: Simple Indentation question: indentation behaviour changed some time ago.
2011-03-01 23:45 ` Nicolas
@ 2011-03-02 8:47 ` Rainer Stengele
2011-03-02 9:51 ` Nicolas
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From: Rainer Stengele @ 2011-03-02 8:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
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Am 02.03.2011 00:45, schrieb Nicolas:
> Hello,
>
> Rainer Stengele <rainer.stengele@online.de> writes:
>
>> * headline
>> - item
>> TEXT
>> ^
>>
>> cursor on first "T" of "TEXT" and pressing "TAB" I got:
>>
>> * headline
>> - item
>> TEXT
>>
>> nowadays I get
>>
>> * headline
>> - item
>> TEXT
>> I checked the org-*indent* variables but could not find a matching variable.
>> How can I configure the old behaviour?
> You can set `org-list-ending-method' to 'regexp, meaning that you will
> need to provide two blank lines (that's configurable though, see
> `org-empty-line-terminates-plain-lists' and `org-list-end-regexp') to end
> a list.
>
> Otherwise, lists are determined by indentation, so, in your example,
> TEXT end the list as it is less indented than any of its items. Thus,
> when pressing TAB, Org indent the line accordingly, that is as a line
> belonging to the headline but not to the list.
>
> Also note that, if TEXT isn't already typed, you can use C-j after
> "item" to stay inside list and go on typing.
>
> Regards,
>
Hello Nicolas,
ok, thanks, I checked all that but could not find a setting that makes sense for me.
I do not understand why when pressing TAB being at point ^:
- item
^
results in
- item
^
but having
- item
TEXT
^
and pressing TAB results in
- item
TEXT
^
How can I get the indentation same as with empty lines?
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* Re: Simple Indentation question: indentation behaviour changed some time ago.
2011-03-02 8:47 ` Rainer Stengele
@ 2011-03-02 9:51 ` Nicolas
2011-03-02 10:12 ` Rainer Stengele
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From: Nicolas @ 2011-03-02 9:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rainer Stengele; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hello,
Rainer Stengele <rainer.stengele@online.de> writes:
> I do not understand why when pressing TAB being at point ^:
>
> - item
>
> ^
>
> results in
>
> - item
>
> ^
>
>
> but having
>
>
> - item
> TEXT
> ^
>
> and pressing TAB results in
>
> - item
> TEXT
> ^
>
> How can I get the indentation same as with empty lines?
You can't. Once TEXT is typed at column 0, by definition, the list
before is over, and indentation reflects that. And this makes sense: how
could an user end a list if all his text was eventually being inserted
inside the list?
On the other hand, if no text is typed yet, like in your first case, the
list isn't over, and TAB will indent line into the last item of the
list, as if you had typed C-j.
I hope it is clearer now.
Regards,
-- Nicolas
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* Re: Simple Indentation question: indentation behaviour changed some time ago.
2011-03-02 9:51 ` Nicolas
@ 2011-03-02 10:12 ` Rainer Stengele
2011-03-02 10:50 ` Nicolas
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From: Rainer Stengele @ 2011-03-02 10:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
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Am 02.03.2011 10:51, schrieb Nicolas:
> Hello,
>
> Rainer Stengele <rainer.stengele@online.de> writes:
>
>> I do not understand why when pressing TAB being at point ^:
>>
>> - item
>>
>> ^
>>
>> results in
>>
>> - item
>>
>> ^
>>
>>
>> but having
>>
>>
>> - item
>> TEXT
>> ^
>>
>> and pressing TAB results in
>>
>> - item
>> TEXT
>> ^
>>
>> How can I get the indentation same as with empty lines?
>
> You can't. Once TEXT is typed at column 0, by definition, the list
> before is over, and indentation reflects that. And this makes sense: how
> could an user end a list if all his text was eventually being inserted
> inside the list?
>
> On the other hand, if no text is typed yet, like in your first case, the
> list isn't over, and TAB will indent line into the last item of the
> list, as if you had typed C-j.
>
> I hope it is clearer now.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> -- Nicolas
Nicolas, thank you for explaining.
Well, it still bugs me.
Many times I start with something like
**** headline
item1
Text belonging to item1
Text belonging to item1
Text belonging to item1
item2
Text belonging to item2
Text belonging to item2
Text belonging to item2
and then later want to bring in more structure,
making item1 and item2 a list item.
I would then expect to get the "Text belonging to" lines being indented as in
**** headline
- item1
Text belonging to item1
Text belonging to item1
Text belonging to item1
- item2
Text belonging to item2
Text belonging to item2
Text belonging to item2
but I get this:
**** headline
- item1
Text belonging to item1
Text belonging to item1
Text belonging to item1
- item2
Text belonging to item2
Text belonging to item2
Text belonging to item2
of course I can indent via macros or manually, I just don't find the behaviour ok.
Regards,
-- Rainer
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* Re: Simple Indentation question: indentation behaviour changed some time ago.
2011-03-02 10:12 ` Rainer Stengele
@ 2011-03-02 10:50 ` Nicolas
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From: Nicolas @ 2011-03-02 10:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rainer Stengele; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Rainer Stengele <rainer.stengele@online.de> writes:
> Many times I start with something like
>
>
> **** headline
> item1
> Text belonging to item1
> Text belonging to item1
> Text belonging to item1
> item2
> Text belonging to item2
> Text belonging to item2
> Text belonging to item2
>
>
> and then later want to bring in more structure,
> making item1 and item2 a list item.
> I would then expect to get the "Text belonging to" lines being indented as in
>
>
> **** headline
> - item1
> Text belonging to item1
> Text belonging to item1
> Text belonging to item1
> - item2
> Text belonging to item2
> Text belonging to item2
> Text belonging to item2
That's easy. Select region from "item1" to third "Text belonging to
item1", and use "C-c -". This command turns a region into an item (with
development version of Org, that is).
Regards,
--
Nicolas
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