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From: Kyle Meyer <kyle@kyleam.com>
To: Kisaragi Hiu <mail@kisaragi-hiu.com>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Format of Effort estimates should be mentioned in its Info node
Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2020 02:55:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k168exr2.fsf@kyleam.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Lxbf_R2--3-2@kisaragi-hiu.com>

Kisaragi Hiu <mail@kisaragi-hiu.com> writes:

> Currently, the Info node about effort estimates does not mention what
> format should it be written in. This causes confusion, as a user might
> assume that it's the same format as schedulers (10m, 6h, etc.) like I
> did.
> Simply mentioning "Effort estimates need to have the format H:MM"

I don't personally use effort estimates, but quickly poking around I see
some indication that estimates should work fine with things like 10min
rather than 0:10.  In particular org-set-effort has a bit that looks
like this:

  (org-refresh-property '((effort . identity)
                          (effort-minutes . org-duration-to-minutes))

The presence of org-duration-to-minutes hints to some sort of

  (org-duration-to-minutes "10min") ; => 10.0
  (org-duration-to-minutes "0:10")  ; => 10.0

And it looks like org-agenda-compare-effort uses the effort-minutes text
property.  That's presumably why, when I view the entries below in the
agenda, org-agenda-filter-by-effort (bound to "_") treats them the same:

  * TODO a
    :Effort:  10min

  * TODO b
    :Effort:   0:10

But that's just one use of effort values, and it sounds like you've hit
into cases where the 10min form didn't work as expected.  Could you
provide more details?

> (copied from the docstring or org-effort-property, the only*
> description of the format I could find) in the Info node would be
> enough.

Given the above, it seems like org-effort-property's docstring is at
least somewhat inaccurate.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-04  2:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-02 19:14 Format of Effort estimates should be mentioned in its Info node Kisaragi Hiu
2020-01-04  2:55 ` Kyle Meyer [this message]
2020-01-04  5:20   ` Kisaragi Hiu
2020-01-04  5:29     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-01-07  8:41       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-01-31 11:13         ` Bastien
2020-02-01  9:24 ` Bastien
2020-02-01 16:40   ` Kisaragi Hiu
2020-02-01 16:45     ` Bastien

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