From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Joost Kremers Subject: Re: Survey: changing a few default settings for Org 9.4 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2020 17:16:44 +0100 Message-ID: <87k14i1rir.fsf@fastmail.fm> References: <87pnebf2ku.fsf@gnu.org> <87blpu37q6.fsf@fastmail.fm> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38831) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j4S1q-0006lb-OX for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 11:16:51 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j4S1p-0003bb-Kf for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 11:16:50 -0500 Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.29]:60975) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j4S1p-0003bB-BP for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 11:16:49 -0500 Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96D02208C for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 11:16:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from Swift.fastmail.com (mue-88-130-56-253.dsl.tropolys.de [88.130.56.253]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 140643060F9B for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 11:16:46 -0500 (EST) In-reply-to: <87blpu37q6.fsf@fastmail.fm> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On Wed, Feb 19 2020, Matthew Lundin wrote: >> - org-hide-emphasis-markers => t >> - org-hide-macro-markers => t [...] > I have a few concerns about this. I believe that markup syntax, > as a > rule, should be visible. Most markdown editors do not hide > markup by > default. I realize that there are some exceptions in Org (e.g., > links). > But editing around the invisible boundaries of links can be in > Org can > be fussy (sometimes I have to do M-x visible-mode when editing > near the > edges of links). So I'd recommend not changing the default here, > especially for emphasis markers. I was going to say the same thing. I set `org-hide-emphasis-markers` to t when I started out using Org, but at some point changed it to `nil` because editing at the beginning/end of words in emphasis markers was just too unpredictable. Same with links, BTW. What I'm wondering, though, is why Org doesn't make hidden markup visible when the cursor moves into it. `prettify-symbols-mode` can do this, and AUCTeX does it by default (IINM) in folded macros and preview snippets, so it's definitely doable. So my suggestion would be to keep it off unless/until such make-visible-at-point functionality is implemented. -- Joost Kremers Life has its moments