From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id WFc8HhVRhGB2BAEAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 24 Apr 2021 19:10:45 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id yIT9GRVRhGAJcgAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 24 Apr 2021 17:10:45 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0310D2E1A6 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 2021 19:10:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:51514 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1laLnm-00052l-E0 for larch@yhetil.org; Sat, 24 Apr 2021 13:10:42 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60978) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1laLlm-0004Ky-7D for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Apr 2021 13:08:38 -0400 Received: from relay10.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.230]:55953) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1laLlj-0003ZR-0d for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Apr 2021 13:08:38 -0400 Received: from localhost (40-67.ipv4.commingeshautdebit.fr [185.131.40.67]) (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay10.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A025A240005; Sat, 24 Apr 2021 17:08:30 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou To: "Bruce D'Arcus" Subject: Re: org-cite: make 'suppress-author' a citation 'style' References: Mail-Followup-To: "Bruce D'Arcus" , org-mode-email Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2021 19:08:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Bruce D'Arcus's message of "Sat, 24 Apr 2021 06:52:51 -0400") Message-ID: <87k0orfw4y.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.178.230; envelope-from=mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr; helo=relay10.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: org-mode-email Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1619284245; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=FU53gPMGfE3zt5rq3hXkPahQEOMwMKUDuQsercC1CrY=; b=HIrPSUV/7dTUjLB0VaNw7a0H7dGOsD0YKJTTCBoQjthCebslb3SwX2e2YwJPRya9G7xvAo dX9GM3AQxCr58xC5LJRpSyTemdqePEY9xbGrBDOOniFF0zuoBgmjqn0CiRTaNo7CVWzx/S /bbCIYGJca3JzEVLm5/AqxbFDcKYNPgUNMqe7fKfwA2Yqq7A5c+BalTp3oF7bQQJvzE9NX KJTLjk+B/W34TGBwbbIyzq7hEMTOQ03lgZqLTlyqfpgXLx4FGFqsGLO25fi1iMb3a249rH 0BZhIseMZTU2KUP3LwJQyLPge9rLan8sJ8LN1lrBQZ+NMxmqncFEC3k9FBHykQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1619284245; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Z9LR2DAdUlPYHFWoL+b1MiimYHg1eJ/VQ6EpCdfLRdVq4W9+/cKMM2wKGmgXokcgdjQYUc /atHjBHaqVffT8Hm7SZ+3iDoHTLkjs/lv8+8ldEwPMnO1jQYZhgRl9JCwKwI2/9DC97D2Y snCEr78QCV+gybtU1gGPUS4BvUdMm3NYhlQc1bXBVXw/vNh3ZWbqTeBSUOakisHw2Io12X YMI12fdNgjjsoOFn3XCaVUrgHRAOihDm+oIj9iuTEsW/Nz+NEh2L7FQ0T1CihSlGXP6EU3 NHWadJbGy2tXB5XvTWzCxaX+8hp/AsJf+6lgVDHH3R+Bl/u2JZzL6v4R3rZ35Q== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.94 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 0310D2E1A6 X-Spam-Score: -0.94 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: Aao5JDBC6NaR Hello, "Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > This distinction is wrong, and we should treat "suppress-author" as a > citation style instead. > > The result would be: > > [cite/supress-author:doe19;doe20] > > Or even can keep the shorthand: > > [cite/-:doe19;doe20] > > In fact, with the change, could even remove it entirely We introduced :suppress-author because someone requested it at some point. I don't remember who, but it may be worth asking that person. I think there are two points to consider before removing suppress-author syntax: 1. does it make sense to apply it independently on references within a full citation? 2. does it make sense to apply it on top of another style? If both answers are no, this can definitely go away. > Or even can keep the shorthand: > > [cite/-:doe19;doe20] Note that Org Citation library does not recognize styles. It is up to the processor to interpret it as a short-hand for "suppress-author". Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou