From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id mDZSKrUY4GDdewEAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 03 Jul 2021 09:58:45 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id CLgFJrUY4GDVfQAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 03 Jul 2021 07:58:45 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0299917F65 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 2021 09:58:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:36920 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lzaY0-0003LG-36 for larch@yhetil.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2021 03:58:44 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56982) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lzaXd-0003J8-Ir for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2021 03:58:21 -0400 Received: from relay10.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.230]:45033) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lzaXb-0005gs-B0 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2021 03:58:21 -0400 Received: (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay10.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4B0E3240002 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 2021 07:58:14 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou To: Org Mode List Subject: Re: [wip-cite-new] Quick note about citation insertion References: <87r1ggu25x.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <877di8tqw9.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87sg0ws7yk.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87o8bks5wd.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <874kdbeu0f.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2021 09:58:14 +0200 In-Reply-To: <874kdbeu0f.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> (Eric S. 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In a typical paper, however, I will cite 10-30 of > these. Finding the actual paper to cite does require being able to > search on not just the keys. The keys, these days, are automatically > generated by the journals often. My tongue in cheek answer was about the weakness of the Org Cite _Basic_ library. I totally understand your need for a serious completion mechanism that can handle thousands of entries. I was merely pointing out that this is not the scope of the demo for the interface I wrote. I hope, however, that really useful tools will be written from that interface. Anyway, I'll try to provide something a little more useful out of the box, based on your comment and Bruce D'Arcus suggestion. Sorry for not being clear! Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou