From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eric Schulte Subject: Re: unattractive list spacing in ox-html export Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 09:34:50 -0400 Message-ID: <87ionqctxh.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87tx7bgzdy.fsf@gmail.com> <87mwd3bbgl.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87oaxjfgce.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39267) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WzQsp-0008Ab-Tt for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 09:35:40 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WzQsl-0005ZV-Kn for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 09:35:35 -0400 Received: from mail-qc0-x233.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c01::233]:35055) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WzQsk-0005ZN-Uj for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 09:35:31 -0400 Received: by mail-qc0-f179.google.com with SMTP id x3so258944qcv.38 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 06:35:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Achim Gratz's message of "Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:46:41 +0000 (UTC)") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Achim Gratz Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Achim Gratz writes: > Eric Schulte gmail.com> writes: >> I disagree, editing CSS shouldn't be required for reasonable default >> list spacing on HTML export. > > You can disagree all you want, that doesn't make the underlying problem go > away. The reason for the "unattractive spacing" is that list items, while > conceptually paragraphs, do not have additional spacing after them so the > list becomes more compact. The W3C doesn't really encourage to use lists > with paragraphs, but if you do (like Org), an explicit paragraph inside a > list environment either should also not have that spacing or should have it > at the beginning (in which case the first paragraph must be implicit). My browser (recent Firefox) *does* place extra spacing around list elements with paragraphs (with no CSS). I assume this is standard. So regardless of what browsers should do, Org-mode should handle what they actually do. > So you'll have to modify the CSS anyway or the lists are still having > ugly spacing. Your patch only makes it consistently ugly as soon as > there is a single explicit paragraph needed. > I think consistency here is a win. Maybe adding another rule to the Org-mode default CSS would make the situation even better, but personally I'm happy with the current look. Thanks, Eric > > Regards, > Achim. > > > -- Eric Schulte https://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte PGP: 0x614CA05D (see https://u.fsf.org/yw)