From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Adam Porter Subject: Re: org-startup-truncated default should be nil [legibility 2/6] Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2020 09:30:47 -0600 Message-ID: <87imklgifs.fsf@alphapapa.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55293) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1izMdm-0003rZ-HS for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2020 10:30:59 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1izMdl-0003Um-Cy for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2020 10:30:58 -0500 Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([159.69.161.202]:53584) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1izMdl-0003GY-2H for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2020 10:30:57 -0500 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1izMdh-000AfD-NF for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2020 16:30:53 +0100 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Texas Cyberthal writes: >> visual-line-mode and toggle-truncate-lines are basic Emacs commands >> that all users should learn early. > > Visual lines, logical lines etc is a complicated mess that Spacemacs > avoids entirely. I recall fiddling with it and never being satisfied, > until adopting Spacemacs solved it. Now I know even less about it than > I did then, because there's no need to know. A brief investigation > shows Spacemacs sets (line-move-visual t) in prosey text modes, so > that C-n next-line operates on visual lines. However commands such as > C-e operate on logical lines: mwim-end-of-line-or-code. This is a sane > default that permits fluid navigation of paragraphs, which is all a > noob wants to do. > > Similarly, I almost never use truncate-lines, to the point that I had > to websearch to recall what it was called within the last week. If I understand correctly, you're arguing that defaults should be changed because you don't understand how Emacs works, and since you use Spacemacs, you don't even care how it works. May I suggest that you propose your changes on the Spacemacs repo.