From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id kBB7Gy2yp2BuNwAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 21 May 2021 15:14:21 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id GCQWFy2yp2A4ewAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 21 May 2021 13:14:21 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9EAA41AD8A for ; Fri, 21 May 2021 15:14:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:59120 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lk4yk-000654-Qj for larch@yhetil.org; Fri, 21 May 2021 09:14:14 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57806) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lk4yG-00062X-Uv for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2021 09:13:44 -0400 Received: from relay9-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.199]:45467) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lk4yE-0002mR-Jo for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2021 09:13:44 -0400 Received: (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay9-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B9F77FF80A; Fri, 21 May 2021 13:13:38 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou To: "Bruce D'Arcus" Subject: Re: [wip-cite-new] Initial implementation of `biblatex' citation processor References: <87bl985b3h.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Mail-Followup-To: "Bruce D'Arcus" , Org Mode List Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 15:13:38 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Bruce D'Arcus's message of "Fri, 21 May 2021 07:49:20 -0400") Message-ID: <87im3cxm9p.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.199; envelope-from=mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr; helo=relay9-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Org Mode List Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1621602857; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=zlUv8SyLQw6tZEp3Fa1OJqv1r1idMCUlBNKxoGTx3xY=; b=GFDN+cHcT307FF6T2xu1Z3Cd7dx1Y2Q3T7f7qYN5h5WVmrkm3Zd7oN/0baxe1rGQ6wuNaB Y8Gkv6rjQ0TA/7jQUhW8gOgfd+3RoXKOXIE/C6C6gwO56qCZJ65aTx0WuggGzBfXVUwA+u tgPty7APvhXtISVE7gxXywGsv4eRUuKGkKPxrAojX4VdD4Fy1C2WunuRU4vyHo9BRCeyo3 7tLM8ibTQ4Jz4Zh289A1rQ2wj0EJhokiBw1vCxtTUB0v1+6O3Nxusp5wzyR1ywQntxjLUr kFVieWhoH11RSUa/HL0/4nuSiU6yOefzps0esJrjA1LVjvzARu45O8SCs6niRg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1621602857; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=rbfT+BqiDohGBkblYxeRwFjiQNEwvToL0YCOoNm6PW+GHnhF9mHeqxZZVKJm832N1GBZwg YE++bwjzSWVIy1kqkqhXrl8h25Ar3v8rcUxxnUeseLczhgOqeBwAfVUHGSAuozWn/a/4Iq dThecq5xMZohNF01MEFa2Z26bT2vd3/i17f8/lRGCi25yqrmRQDIoEmwA+KCWrJX6kwUZ1 gVvCFDfkIzlpvhMSbdVh56CnkLa7qELWexB6/8HSL0x3jl4bsutdVbJJq42rg0g8Nr1Exp EoFD/AxukteZ+zKVUC9RY4NzZqAh6KY3iWkZadaHGB7qhE/5oekUJnXSryOzQw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.44 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 9EAA41AD8A X-Spam-Score: -2.44 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: x+YsacT3NAnx Hello, "Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 11:45 AM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > >> I didn't test it much so it probably contains silly bugs. Sorry about >> that. > > OK, a simple bug report. > > cite/bare -> \cite (currently is autocite) > cite/bare-caps -> \Cite (currently is autocite) > > Also, not sure about the "full" sub-styles. Do those have an > equivalent in biblatex? This is not a bug report, but a suggestion for additional bindings, isn't it? In any case, it sounds fine to me, but Denis Maier made a similar suggestion with the following table: | Style | Variant | Command | |-----------+---------------+--------------| | author | caps | Citeauthor* | | author | full | citeauthor | | author | caps-full | Citeauthor | | author | | citeauthor | |-----------+---------------+--------------| | title | full | citetitle* | | title | | citetitle | |-----------+---------------+--------------| | year | full | citeyear* | | year | | citeyear | |-----------+---------------+--------------| | locators | parens | pnotecite | | locators | parens-caps | Pnotecite | | locators | foot | fnotecite | | locators | caps | Notecite | | locators | | notecite | |-----------+---------------+--------------| | nocite | | nocite | |-----------+---------------+--------------| | note | text | footcitetext | | note | | footcite | |-----------+---------------+--------------| | smart | caps | Smartcite | | smart | | smartcite | |-----------+---------------+--------------| | super | | supercite | |-----------+---------------+--------------| | foot | | footcite | |-----------+---------------+--------------| | text | caps | Textcite | | text | | textcite | |-----------+---------------+--------------| | parens | noauthor-caps | Parencite* | | parens | noauthor | parencite* | | parens | caps | Parencite | | parens | | parencite | |-----------+---------------+--------------| | plain | noauthor-caps | Cite* | | plain | noauthor | cite* | | plain | caps | Cite | | plain | | cite | |-----------+---------------+--------------| | (default) | caps | Autocite | | (default) | | autocite | So maybe we should try to converge first. Then, I'll happily implement the result! Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou