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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1657011775; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=8BueFdwPtKrc+MKtp9DjlPkHRc0upN+J1DzG4g5c7ZM=; b=BAORvMUZ5YGaOLY4oV8/dw+lG3hBGPZWvs2qbr9jisvvuwid1UKpcnkDweUjhikQOVyB7t 02rVivOwwh3LuT0sww2Ikc9oPbK0dyNn/zkVzHc7XUnL1I4m6cuMp6cTXTuKr41WI0z9Fy bNQ8V5Nc3oHgAPMW2OLPdfO2YRe88B1gYaQSVfL/4Ew0Z5R93sx33iYyK/JNcEKJLFwSoy cGVAZuC8mgAOSE0gy6olZxOwaJsuEvN7DjE4tr8IGTDOLoVzrf6pWvY3eH3+ZPbDKc7nr5 V3D8fCOAzKmAFZk9r2fLaWGm3BmtHB2gMrJQuPfdINSa4kHLEZv0ItAS9CJQLg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1657011775; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=fhir+2uWaahQPlZbs7SsVFNGp/k/fUPXTvBXYRJGR3vXKDer7DKUepPV4DkLxoM2wvJrMh 3dW9ptQcbyJixU/qHL+NYzcGbwI5Nw6KEugkdx4y5iiBvW/+MnVmjE6jLI3YmWKfjgDD3n Q0xu672Ojae31s/pU7iw64wUMmhu4lmqa59GWfxoElmzxO+Ofrp9WL+BokyVgtuLmZhcUS mC3Lz99aO8Pds7iiAGtzhSDCvH2YOzAsVsvHdngEx8XeXnqhmTz1Z2BllYtNPBMSvuYTa4 OcJ98aCR50GqpIj/eA6XWtQTl68W88uHBbZvzz55lFsTQVEDM/TmQTGziZJpsA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=web.de header.s=dbaedf251592 header.b=Iz9TOcCR; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=web.de; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -7.65 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=web.de header.s=dbaedf251592 header.b=Iz9TOcCR; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=web.de; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: A7B163D60B X-Spam-Score: -7.65 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 75ONASlnl63P --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Richard Stallman writes: > Meanwhile, we have a potential solution for donating money: GNU Taler. > It shows promise, for the long term: even national banks are starting > to get interested in it. (See taler.net.) But banking systems are > not set up to interact with it today. GNU Taler requires an intermediary to clear the coins. This would again be where a platform like liberapay would come in. The place to bring that up seems to be the "third payment processor" issue: https://github.com/liberapay/liberapay.com/issues/1394 And they are planning to do that, so a donation via LiberaPay is an option to minimize proprietary Javascript =E2=80=94 and to get rid of it in= the long run. Though I do agree that it would be nice to have an *option* to send a bank transfer and/or have an address to mail a cheque. To take up criticism before it becomes a discussion: While Github is annoying, you can read it without running proprietary Javascript (I just checked that by opening it in eww), and you can interact with it using email. 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