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It works well, until today. After an initial 'pull', 'make clean' and 'make', I 'cd' to lisp and 'rm *.elc'. I then updated from an org-mode buffer, successfully. I 'make clean' again followed by 'make'. I then did a further update from an org-mode buffer. The second update was successfully loaded, and subsequent launches of emacs cause no errors. However, I did initially receive the following warning: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- It is recommended to put (straight-use-package 'org) early in the config. Ideally, right after the straight.el bootstrap. Moving `use-package' :straight declaration may not be sufficient if the corresponding `use-package' statement is deferring the loading. --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- I do not use "packages" nor "straight", so why the recommendation? My method works perfectly well. As well as the above warning, the debugger clicked in with an "Org version mismatch" error. The path to org-mode is already loaded early (very early) in my ~/.emacs. After the update, I received no further warnings or errors from emacs, from both the active and subsequent sessions. In my opinion, all the update warnings were essentially wrong and unnecessary. So why are they there? Colin.