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From: Andreas Leha <andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] synctex support for pdf export
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 11:33:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87haj8f89w.fsf@med.uni-goettingen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87r4iutxvf.fsf@gmail.com

Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> writes:

> Hello,
>
> Aaron Ecay <aaronecay@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> This patch series is an attempt to add synctex support to org mode.
>
> Thank you for your patch.
>
>> I have not tested this code extensively, but it does work for me.  I
>> don't know if it works for async export or not, since I haven't set up
>> a working environment for that.
>
> Async export works out of-the-box (though not optimized). There's no
> special environment to set up.
>
>> There are currently limitations.  The granularity of the jumping is
>> not great, because of the way the parser works.  It will get you into
>> the paragraph corresponding to the PDF location, but no closer (with
>> pure latex, you will arrive at the exact line in the tex file).  You
>> also have to run org-latex-patch-synctex manually, unless you use the
>> direct-to-pdf export option (C-c C-e l p).  In regular latex, beamer
>> documents have somewhat degraded synctex granularity (in general, you
>> don't get to the exact source line, but only somewhere between
>> \begin{frame} and \end{frame}).  This may be compounded by the bad
>> granularity of this patch -- I have not tested this combo very much.
>
> [...]
>
> As you notice, there are many limitations and I agree some of them will
> be tedious to overcome. It also breaks asynchronous export.
>
> Moreover, modifying both parser and core export framework for an
> optional feature within a single back-end family is not right, IMO.
>
> While I acknowledge the investment put into this patch, I won't accept
> it in its current form. I might consider it if it only modifies
> ox-latex.el, handles include keywords and buffer modifications through
> Babel, and doesn't break asynchronous export. Not relying on text
> properties is a real plus.
>
> Though, don't push it too hard, I'm really not sure it's worth the
> trouble.
>
>
> Regards,


Hi Nicolas,

I understand all your points very well:  Too heavy changes for an
optional and still feature-incomplete patch targeting a sub-group of users.

But the provided functionality would be really handy for everybody
who writes larger documents (like a thesis) with org-mode and has to
incorporate comments made to the pdf.

This feature has been asked for on this list
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2010-08/msg01253.html
and on stackoverflow
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9965049/how-to-use-synctex-with-org-mode

So I just want to contradict your last statement:  IMO it's worth the
trouble to get this working in orgmode.

Best,
Andreas

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-04-15  9:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-01  3:14 [PATCH 0/3] synctex support for pdf export Aaron Ecay
2013-04-01  3:14 ` [PATCH 1/3] Add :begin-line and :end-line to parser results Aaron Ecay
2013-04-01  3:15 ` [PATCH 2/3] Introduce machinery to ox.el for concordance generation Aaron Ecay
2013-04-01  3:15 ` [PATCH 3/3] Add synctex modification based on concordance Aaron Ecay
2013-04-01  9:15 ` [PATCH 0/3] synctex support for pdf export Nicolas Goaziou
2013-04-01 15:33   ` Aaron Ecay
2013-04-04 13:19     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-04-18  8:29       ` Aaron Ecay
2013-04-18 16:27         ` Rasmus
2013-04-15  9:33   ` Andreas Leha [this message]
2013-04-15 11:50     ` Alan Schmitt
2013-04-15 15:37       ` Bastien

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