Beamer Export: US date format despite \usepackage[ngerman]{babel}

Beamer Export: US date format despite \usepackage[ngerman]{babel}

[Loris Bennett]

Hi,

If I have  the following:

,--------------------------------------------
| #+TITLE: Test
| #+AUTHOR: Loris Bennett
| 
| #+OPTIONS: H:1 toc:nil
| 
| #+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage[ngerman]{babel}
| 
| #+DATE: \today
| 
| * Test
| 
| Test
`--------------------------------------------

And export as to Beamer PDF, the tex file contains

,-------------------------------------
| \usepackage[ngerman, english]{babel}
`-------------------------------------

And the date is rendered as

,-------------
| May 22, 2014
`-------------

Is this a bug or should I be doing something else to get "22. Mai 2014"?

Cheers,

Loris

Org-mode version 8.2.6 (8.2.6-18-gaaae4a-elpaplus @ /home/loris/.emacs.d/elpa/org-plus-contrib-20140512/)

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Re: Beamer Export: US date format despite \usepackage[ngerman]{babel}

[Loris Bennett]

"Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de> writes:

> Hi,
>
> If I have  the following:
>
> ,--------------------------------------------
> | #+TITLE: Test
> | #+AUTHOR: Loris Bennett
> | 
> | #+OPTIONS: H:1 toc:nil
> | 
> | #+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage[ngerman]{babel}
> | 
> | #+DATE: \today
> | 
> | * Test
> | 
> | Test
> `--------------------------------------------
>
> And export as to Beamer PDF, the tex file contains
>
> ,-------------------------------------
> | \usepackage[ngerman, english]{babel}
> `-------------------------------------
>
> And the date is rendered as
>
> ,-------------
> | May 22, 2014
> `-------------
>
> Is this a bug or should I be doing something else to get "22. Mai 2014"?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Loris
>
> Org-mode version 8.2.6 (8.2.6-18-gaaae4a-elpaplus @ /home/loris/.emacs.d/elpa/org-plus-contrib-20140512/)

This has been reported to me seemingly off-list as also occurring with
Swedish instead of German.

So does anyone else of a non-MDY persuasion have this problem?

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Re: Beamer Export: US date format despite \usepackage[ngerman]{babel}

[Nick Dokos]

"Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de> writes:

> "Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de> writes:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> If I have  the following:
>>
>> ,--------------------------------------------
>> | #+TITLE: Test
>> | #+AUTHOR: Loris Bennett
>> | 
>> | #+OPTIONS: H:1 toc:nil
>> | 
>> | #+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage[ngerman]{babel}
>> | 
>> | #+DATE: \today
>> | 
>> | * Test
>> | 
>> | Test
>> `--------------------------------------------
>>
>> And export as to Beamer PDF, the tex file contains
>>
>> ,-------------------------------------
>> | \usepackage[ngerman, english]{babel}
>> `-------------------------------------
>>
>> And the date is rendered as
>>
>> ,-------------
>> | May 22, 2014
>> `-------------
>>
>> Is this a bug or should I be doing something else to get "22. Mai 2014"?
>>

#+LANGUAGE: de

perhaps?
-- 
Nick

Re: Beamer Export: US date format despite \usepackage[ngerman]{babel}

[Nick Dokos]

"Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de> writes:

> "Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de> writes:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> If I have  the following:
>>
>> ,--------------------------------------------
>> | #+TITLE: Test
>> | #+AUTHOR: Loris Bennett
>> | 
>> | #+OPTIONS: H:1 toc:nil
>> | 
>> | #+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage[ngerman]{babel}
>> | 
>> | #+DATE: \today
>> | 
>> | * Test
>> | 
>> | Test
>> `--------------------------------------------
>>
>> And export as to Beamer PDF, the tex file contains
>>
>> ,-------------------------------------
>> | \usepackage[ngerman, english]{babel}
>> `-------------------------------------
>>
>> And the date is rendered as
>>
>> ,-------------
>> | May 22, 2014
>> `-------------
>>
>> Is this a bug or should I be doing something else to get "22. Mai 2014"?
>>

I sent too soon:

.. or set `org-export-default-language' - and see

    (info "(org) Export settings")

for more options.

-- 
Nick

Re: Beamer Export: US date format despite \usepackage[ngerman]{babel}

[Loris Bennett]

Nick Dokos <ndokos@gmail.com> writes:

> "Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de> writes:
>
>> "Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de> writes:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> If I have  the following:
>>>
>>> ,--------------------------------------------
>>> | #+TITLE: Test
>>> | #+AUTHOR: Loris Bennett
>>> | 
>>> | #+OPTIONS: H:1 toc:nil
>>> | 
>>> | #+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage[ngerman]{babel}
>>> | 
>>> | #+DATE: \today
>>> | 
>>> | * Test
>>> | 
>>> | Test
>>> `--------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> And export as to Beamer PDF, the tex file contains
>>>
>>> ,-------------------------------------
>>> | \usepackage[ngerman, english]{babel}
>>> `-------------------------------------
>>>
>>> And the date is rendered as
>>>
>>> ,-------------
>>> | May 22, 2014
>>> `-------------
>>>
>>> Is this a bug or should I be doing something else to get "22. Mai 2014"?
>>>
>
> I sent too soon:
>
> .. or set `org-export-default-language' - and see
>
>     (info "(org) Export settings")
>
> for more options.

So if I have the following in my Org file

,-------------------------------------------
| +LANGUAGE: de
| +LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage[ngerman]{babel}
`-------------------------------------------

I get this in my LaTeX file:

,-------------------------------------
| \usepackage[ngerman, germanb]{babel}
`-------------------------------------

and I get \today is rendered correctly for German:

,-------------
| 26. Mai 2014
`-------------

However, without a \usepackage{babel} header and just

,--------------
| +LANGUAGE: de
`--------------

there is no \usepackage line in the LaTeX file for babel and I get

,-------------
| May 26, 2014
`-------------

The specific idiosyncrasy with German seems to be that there are 3
options with babel: german, ngerman, and germanb.  If the LATEX_HEADER
includes babel, then setting LANGUAGE will append germanb to the list of
language options given, if not already given.

So my problem is solved (thanks, Nick), although one question remains:

Does setting LANGUAGE, without \usepackage{babel} on its own actually
achieve anything for LaTeX, or is it just for other backends?

Cheers,

Loris



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