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From: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
To: Alain.Cochard@unistra.fr
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Confused about the explanation for 'org-cycle'
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 16:31:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h8vmopww.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <22986.19586.309718.302611@frac.u-strasbg.fr> (Alain Cochard's message of "Tue, 26 Sep 2017 14:48:02 +0200")

Hello,

Alain.Cochard@unistra.fr writes:

> As for the wording, I have nothing ecstatic to propose, but -- as a
> beginner and trying to think like one who is reading the manual for
> the first time while experimenting -- I would have been happy with
> something like:
>
>    You can run global cycling using <TAB> only if point is at the very
>    beginning of the buffer (not being a headline) and
>    `org-cycle-global-at-bob' is set to a non-`nil' value.

Fixed. Thank you.

> More generally, I cannot remember the number of times when I read the
> manual, do not understand it,

This is exactly where the manual fails. What is the point of an
exhaustive, yet not understandable, manual?

> In other words, the manual is often too concise/elegant

Alas, it is not. See above.

> for the
> (admittedly not very smart) beginner that I am, and I would favor
> completeness -- with footnotes, dumb examples to get started, more
> cross-references, even repetitions -- over clarity.

Completeness is not possible. For example, we do not document every
variable in the manual. Besides, when reading a pile of special rules
for special cases, the reader may lose focus and miss the whole concept.

BTW, a "docstring" is the documentation you get when using, e.g., `C-h
v' or `C-h f'.

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-09-28 14:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-18 14:04 Confused about the explanation for 'org-cycle' Alain.Cochard
2017-09-19  5:08 ` Matt Lundin
2017-09-20 10:57   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-09-26  8:54     ` Alain.Cochard
2017-09-26 10:41       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-09-26 12:48         ` Alain.Cochard
2017-09-28 13:44           ` org-list-empty-line-terminates-plain-lists removed but still mentioned in the manual Alain.Cochard
2017-09-28 14:07             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-09-28 14:31           ` Nicolas Goaziou [this message]
2017-09-28 15:29             ` Confused about the explanation for 'org-cycle' Robert Horn
2017-09-28 16:10               ` Kyle Meyer
2017-09-28 16:17                 ` Eric S Fraga
2017-09-28 21:04             ` Alain.Cochard
2017-09-28 21:22               ` Josiah Schwab
2017-09-28 21:30               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-10-05  8:17                 ` Alain.Cochard
2017-11-10 17:23                   ` How to use case sensitive org-search-view? Alain.Cochard
2017-11-14 14:26                     ` Matt Lundin
2017-11-14 15:30                       ` Alain.Cochard
2017-11-14 20:35                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-11-14 20:55                         ` Tim Cross
2017-11-15 14:02                           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-11-15 21:14                             ` Tim Cross
2017-11-16 10:05                             ` Alain.Cochard
2017-11-15 10:49                         ` Alain.Cochard
2017-11-15 11:55                           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-11-15 12:35                             ` Alain.Cochard

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