From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id uGt9J3DwIl/NIwAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 16:08:16 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id UKhrI3DwIl+DXwAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 16:08:16 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 206C59403C5 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 16:08:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:38304 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k1B6L-00078r-HI for larch@yhetil.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 12:08:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57558) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k1As5-0003h0-HP for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 11:53:30 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:40390) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k1As2-0004ii-OK; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 11:53:26 -0400 Received: from [2607:fea8:3fe0:17d::7] (port=40010 helo=localhost) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1k1As2-0006u8-7f; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 11:53:26 -0400 From: Amin Bandali To: TEC Subject: Re: Website revamp? Organization: GNU References: <87zh95g2ns.fsf@gmail.com> <87mu3hduk1.fsf@gmail.com> <87wo2lyvid.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0yldpuj.fsf@gmail.com> Mail-Followup-To: TEC , Russell Adams , Org Mode Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 11:53:24 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87k0yldpuj.fsf@gmail.com> Message-ID: <87h7tpyp6z.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Org Mode Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 1.89 X-TUID: gbbCBj9b9fhc --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Timothy, TEC writes: > Hello Russell, Amin, > > Thanks for giving me your thoughts on the idea :) > Your responses have lead me to think that this may lead somewhere. > :-) [...] > > Amin Bandali writes:=20=20 >> Hello,=20 > Hi :) > >> While we wait for Bastien and others to chime in, per your question >> in your original proposal email, if you have not seen it already, >> the repository containing the sources for the current Org website >> seems to be at . > > I wasn't aware of that! Thank you very much for bringing it to my > attention. > You're very welcome! > >> If you have some time, perhaps consider making a quick demo of one >> revamped page, to give folks an idea of what sort of changes you >> imagine?=20 > > I may just have a go at whipping up a 'revamped' index page, I'll let > you all know how that goes. > Please do, and thanks in advance for working on it. Looking forward to seeing it what comes of it. :-) > >> I think the overall design of the Org website is fine, but it could >> use well-thought out enhancements to make browsing around and >> discovering things easier. That said, I personally wouldn't be >> opposed to a bit of a revamp, if the site continues to work well >> without JS and continue to be accessible in text-based browsers >> (like EWW and Lynx).=20 > > As I said earlier, I see no reason for the Org site to be much more > than a simple static page ... just in need of a bit of massaging into > a more aesthetically pleasing shape. > > ----- > > While this may seem like a relatively minor pursuit in the scheme of > things, it is (or at least was in my case) the landing page for the > feature that can draw one into Emacs. > > For the sake of curious individuals who aren't sure what to expect, I > think it's worth some effort to make their first impression lean more > towards "Org is a novel and exciting format, ahead of it's time" than > "Org is some old and crufty format that hasn't received much love" :P > > While obviously that goes far beyond the styling of orgmode.org, I do > honestly think that it plays a part. > +1. Speaking of Emacs, I quite like the design Nicolas Petton did for a few years back. It has a few different templates, which I think lend themselves well to pages with various purposes. For instance, I used one to create the ERC page a while ago. Perhaps something carrying some resemblance and familiarity of the Emacs web pages would be a good idea to start with? > > All the best, > > Timothy. 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