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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=No8VLHKn; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.29 X-TUID: wSnnvfy6k9Vp --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Maxim Nikulin writes:=20 =20 > I have tried adaptive design tool in firefox. Currently I would=20 > rather complain concerning the size of the unicorn logo. It=20 > consumes whole screen when emulation of a phone and landscape=20 > orientation is selected. I expect more informative greeting.=20 Oh my. I just checked that out and it looks ridiculous. I seem to=20 have accidentally messed with the mobile styling at some point,=20 should be easy to get it to behave sensibly again though. =20 > In the meanwhile I spent some time trying to figure out what is=20 > considered as the best practice to distinguish mobile/large=20 > screen device. I did not expect that there is still nothing more=20 > than viewport width. Blog posts recommended on stackoverflow=20 > have mostly mobile-first design with oversized fonts on normal=20 > monitor so I could not take them seriously. Finally I realized=20 > that MDN (developer.mozilla.org) pages looks quite neat even=20 > though they have lager fonts for headers in desktop layout than=20 > in mobile mode. So font size is quite subtle entity in respect=20 > to perception.=20 Media queries + relative units I think can be good in this regard. =20 > There is something wrong with nav and banner padding and=20 > margins. Firefox in adaptive design mode shows a white stripe=20 > between them when navigation menu is collapsed.=20 Yep, I see this. Seems like another thing in need to=20 re-addressing. =20 > I should say that I am impressed (unsure in a positive or a=20 > negative way however) by the hack with checkbox to show and hide=20 > the navigation menu. But certainly I appreciate that it works=20 > with disabled javascript. Before I was aware only of=20 > and for a similar effect.=20 =F0=9F=98=81 =20 > I was unlucky enough to open the page in a browser window of=20 > such width that bottom banner line resembles a continuous string=20 > of text with uniformly altering bold/normal text "maintained by=20 > *Bastien Guerry* and developed by *many others.* Support via"=20 > and "LibrePay" is more bright again. It is just an opinion.=20 =20 Hmm. That sounds non-ideal. I think we can play around with the=20 styling for this though, e.g. increase the line height, add a=20 margin to offset, etc. Once again, many thanks for your feedback! Timothy. --=-=-= Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="==-=-=" --==-=-= Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Maxim Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> writes:

> I have tried adaptive design tool in firefox. Currently I would rather= complain
> concerning the size of the unicorn logo. It consumes whole screen when= emulation
> of a phone and landscape orientation is selected. I expect more inform= ative
> greeting.

Oh my. I just checked that out and it looks ridiculous. I seem to have
accidentally messed with the mobile styling at some point, should be easy t= o get
it to behave sensibly again though.

> In the meanwhile I spent some time trying to figure out what is consid= ered as
> the best practice to distinguish mobile/large screen device. I did not= expect
> that there is still nothing more than viewport width. Blog posts recom= mended on
> stackoverflow have mostly mobile-first design with oversized fonts on = normal
> monitor so I could not take them seriously. Finally I realized that MDN
> (developer.mozilla.org) pages looks quite neat even though they have l= ager fonts
> for headers in desktop layout than in mobile mode. So font size is qui= te subtle
> entity in respect to perception.

Media queries + relative units I think can be good in this regard.

> There is something wrong with nav and banner padding and margins. Fire= fox in
> adaptive design mode shows a white stripe between them when navigation= menu is
> collapsed.

Yep, I see this. Seems like another thing in need to re-addressing.

> I should say that I am impressed (unsure in a positive or a negative w= ay
> however) by the hack with checkbox to show and hide the navigation men= u.
> But certainly I appreciate that it works with disabled javascript. Bef= ore I was
> aware only of <description> and <summary> for a similar ef= fect.

=F0=9F=98=81

> I was unlucky enough to open the page in a browser window of such widt= h that
> bottom banner line resembles a continuous string of text with uniforml= y altering
> bold/normal text “maintained by Bastien Guerry and develo= ped by many others.
> Support via” and “LibrePay” is more bright again. It= is just an opinion.

Hmm. That sounds non-ideal. I think we can play around with the styling for= this
though, e.g. increase the line height, add a margin to offset, etc.

Once again, many thanks for your feedback!

Timothy.

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