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For > example, if geiser doesn't support Emacs 26 but org is supposed to, > there isn't much we can do. We cannot afford to fork geiser and modify > it to add the support and even if we provided a patch to add the support > to the geiser project, they may not merge it. > > Best we can do is best effort and reflect this limitation in the manual > where we stipulate what our backwards compatibility policy is. Ok. Here are the tentative patches for Org manual and WORG maintenance page. --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-patch Content-Disposition: inline; filename=0001-org-maintenance.org-Document-third-party-package-com.patch >From 15a929176e9c03be6ef3bdb5b6401a8732c188a7 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 Message-Id: <15a929176e9c03be6ef3bdb5b6401a8732c188a7.1670680001.git.yantar92@posteo.net> From: Ihor Radchenko Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2022 16:46:10 +0300 Subject: [PATCH] org-maintenance.org: Document third-party package compatibility * org-maintenance.org (Org releases are compatible with the latest three major Emacs releases): Document that we only guarantee compatibility with the latest stable versions of third-party packages. Link: https://orgmode.org/list/86iljd3x90.fsf@gmail.com --- org-maintenance.org | 4 ++++ 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+) diff --git a/org-maintenance.org b/org-maintenance.org index 8c7d9492..13f0b30c 100644 --- a/org-maintenance.org +++ b/org-maintenance.org @@ -172,6 +172,10 @@ ** Org releases are compatible with the latest three major Emacs releases older Emacsen: but maintainers are not bound to fix bugs reported on them. +Some Org components also depend on third-party packages available +through package archives. Org is only guaranteed to be compatible +with the last stable versions of these third-party packages. + Org versions that are not yet released (from the main or bugfix branch) don't come with any promise regarding compatibility. -- 2.38.1 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-patch Content-Disposition: inline; filename=0001-org-manual-Document-third-party-package-compatibilit.patch >From de2a6b9a924d2c5b135104dc2a383bafdb1995bb Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 Message-Id: From: Ihor Radchenko Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2022 16:45:03 +0300 Subject: [PATCH] org-manual: Document third-party package compatibility * doc/org-manual.org (Installation): Document that we only guarantee compatibility with the latest stable versions of third-party packages. Link: https://orgmode.org/list/86iljd3x90.fsf@gmail.com --- doc/org-manual.org | 4 ++++ 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+) diff --git a/doc/org-manual.org b/doc/org-manual.org index 63e9d4139..8f4da3149 100644 --- a/doc/org-manual.org +++ b/doc/org-manual.org @@ -96,6 +96,10 @@ ** Installation that Org stable versions are meant to be fully compatible with the last three stable versions of Emacs but not with older Emacsen. +Some Org components also depend on third-party packages available +through package archives. Org is only guaranteed to be compatible +with the last stable versions of these third-party packages. + *** Using Emacs packaging system :PROPERTIES: :UNNUMBERED: notoc -- 2.38.1 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at --=-=-=--