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(was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2024 09:48:20 +0000 Message-ID: <87h676fvdn.fsf@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 14 Dec 2024 04:59:41 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.01 X-Spam-Score: -1.01 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 5355D87C39 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-TUID: rEswAd1WfI8R Psionic K writes: >> intercepts the main loop > This is optional, per transient menu (prefix) and the commands within it. > A common technique, used by magit and others, is to have entry point > commands in the regular keymap so that many commands can be started without > traversing several menus. If you want normal un-shadowed bindings active > at the same time, the prefix has a slot called `transient-non-suffix' that > is similar to the `:suppress' option in keymaps or setting a `t' > `undefined' binding in a keymap. However the results of mixing self-insert > and modal or modal and another modal are generally bad. Thanks for the info! So, we can have something like :transient-non-suffix 'leave and then pressing something that is not bound to a suffix or infix will run the parent keymap command, automatically leaving transient state. > - Normalizing how to obtain arguments when being called independently as an > interactive command versus being called as a Transient suffix I think it is addressed in the example patch I shared. There, we pass around the original function arguments via macro expansion (!arg-name) ["Open" ("b" "bibliography entry" (org-cite-basic-goto !citation !prefix))] > In the short term, to punch the first two problems in the face, override > the `:setup-children' method. If you know what keymap you are borrowing > bindings from, you can synchronize it at display time. This is also partially solved. We do use :setup-children, although the initial implementation simply reads user customization into menu layout. I believe that we can read a keymap in similar way and generate transient layout automatically. > What I fear is a system like org-speed-keys which relies on an override of > `org-self-insert' and is yet another orthogonal system. I much prefer the > Lispy style of integration, which uses a keymap. Using keymaps, even if > they are not active, to generate transient key bindings via :setup-children > is the best way to have certain integration with other Emacs tools. May you please elaborate? -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode maintainer, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at