From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: David Engster Subject: Re: Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch? Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 20:28:30 +0100 Message-ID: <87fuk08i01.fsf@engster.org> References: <87k29d7zvw.fsf@engster.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40231) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cYHdG-0000v3-S0 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 14:29:02 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cYHdC-0000eR-CA for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 14:28:54 -0500 In-Reply-To: (John Wiegley's message of "Mon, 30 Jan 2017 10:59:39 -0500") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: Kaushal Modi Cc: Bastien Guerry , Emacs developers , emacs-org list , Phillip Lord John Wiegley writes: >>>>>> "DE" == David Engster writes: > > DE> This is a misunderstanding. I said I wanted to move support for certain > DE> languages and project types into ELPA, not CEDET core. I'm still of the > DE> opinion that moving it completely to ELPA is a mistake. > > It would only be a mistake if other parts of core need to use it. If only > users make use of it, then having it ELPA will be invisible to them. It is a mistake because you are creating more moving targets and bring them together very late in the release process. This reduces the amount of testing that is done for those packages, so bugs will be noticed later and the quality of the relases suffer. It moves even more work into the RC-phase, which is already crowded and where people who can fix those bugs might not be readily available. It removes those packages from Emacs CI, so that breakages due to changes in core are not immediately noticed, and often times they have to be fixed not by those who created the breakage, but by those who notice them. -David